Yes indeed, more busy dad than naughty if we’re in a more generous mood but I did indeed forget to reflect the board state, my bad.
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Just teasing. You’re a bit notorious for it, but whatever
Busy dad part has been a constant 
I’m feeling like there’s mixed signals here on the “just teasing” and “notorious but whatever”. Could be misunderstanding but if there’s a problem we’re avoiding talking about I’d rather talk about it than hide behind a “just joking” 
I’m happy to try to be more careful and take the L when I mess up. It’s never from a place of intent to deceive. Definitely prone to forgetting to check my work though, and happy to replay the last turn if the confusion would have made a difference
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Oh nah, I don’t wanna throw shade. Remember, zero stakes niche nerd game 
I just notice you often forget. I find it amusing
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I think you’ve got me, you hit a good discard and my split for the last 3 hands have been pretty suboptimal. They weren’t total screws, I didn’t have super high odds of getting everything to line up but it still stings. Swift strike is so good.
P1T10
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Cursed Ghoul
STARTING HAND
Sickness
Death Rites
Plague Lab
Plague Lab
Gorgon (2/4)
WORKERS
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Fruit Ninja
Older Brother
Spark
Nimble Fencer
Tenderfoot (1/2)
Brick Thief (2/1), resist 1
NextHand
Timely Messenger
Nimble Fencer (2/3A)
Gorgon (2/4A)
Helpful Turtle
Tech 1 card(s)
Get Paid - ($11)
Plague Lab, -1/-1 counter on all your units - ($8)
Orpal - ($6)
Sickness on blademaster and River - ($4)
Garth to lvl7, pull out Cursed Ghoul - ($1)
Cursed ghoul puts a -1/-1 on blademaster
make a skeleton - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 2
Board Info:
In Patrol:
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Squad Leader: Garth L7 (3/4A) -
Elite: -
Scavenger: Skeleton (1/1) -
Technician: Cursed Ghoul (4/5) -
Lookout:
In Play:
- Plague Lab (3HP)
- Orpal L1 (1/3)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 18 -
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Disease)
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Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 10
- Disc: 0
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 11
Thoughts
If I had spreading plague this turn it probably would have put me ahead, but now I’m probably SOL. I think this is the right patrol, it should be harder for him to get his units to 1 shot Garth, though anything is possible with fencers and virtuosos.
Maybe, that’s a lot of -1/1
CAMS22 Round 2 Player 2, Turn 10
P2 Nightmare-ish vs P1 Finesse/Necromancy/Disease
Link to full rule changes in effect
Starting Hand
Maestro
Pestering Haunt
Nimble Fencer
Grounded Guide
Graveyard (skeleton, bah!)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (11)
- No techs
All Teched Cards
Blademaster x2
Grounded Guide
Grounded Guide, Dark Pact
Star-Crossed Starlet x2
Leaping Lizard, Discord
Maestro, Nimble Fencer
Dark Pact, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Grounded Guide (6)
- Garth (4)
- Blademaster kills SQL, Garth to level 3
- Imp dies to Ghoul, deals 2
- Lizard swift strikes down Ghoul, takes 1 from tower, you draw 1
- River swift strikes down skeleton, takes 1, you get 1g
- Maestro (1)
- Nimble Fencer, kills Orpal, Garth to level 5
- Make a skeleton, sacrifice to draw 1 (0)
Workers
Shadow Blade, Jandra, The Negator, Skeletal Archery, Skeleton Javelineer, Summon Skeletons, Poisonblade Rogue
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Patrol as below - Discard 2 Draw 4
Board Info:
Buildings:
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Base HP: 18
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 FINESSE
- Tech3 HP: 5
- Tower HP: 3
In Patrol:
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Squad Leader: Maestro (4/5a)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: Grounded Guide (4/4) -
Technician: -
Lookout:
In Play:
- River (2/2 lvl 5, -)
- Blademaster (6/2, —)
- Leaping Lizard (3/3, -)
- Nimble Fencer (4/3)
- Garth (2/3 lvl 5)
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 7
- Disc: 4
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 11
End of Turn Hand
Nimble Fencer
Discord
Deteriorate
Blademaster
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
K let’s give the levels to Garth, plan to kill both heroes. I can then use the last gold to draw 1 w/ skele. If I get Fencer, its a tower kill. If I get blademaster, it’s tech2 down. And if I get Grounded Guide, I can rez it next turn. Anything else isn’t too bad to draw, though graveyard wouldn’t be ideal I’d love to get that slapped down.
…
Booourns. Oh well.
Both lizard and imp had -1/-1, how do they kill the ghoul?
Never mind I forgot the guide gives them +1 too
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Pretty sure you’re gonna dunk on me now, but I feel good about how well much of a fight I was able to pull off.
P1T11
StartingHand Workers
STARTING HAND
Helpful Turtle
Gorgon (2/4A)
Nimble Fencer (2/3A)
Timely Messenger
Plague Lab
WORKERS
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Fruit Ninja
Older Brother
Spark
Nimble Fencer
Tenderfoot (1/2)
Brick Thief (2/1), resist 1
NextHand
Spreading Plague
Spreading Plague
Bloom
Bone Collector (3/3)
Discard
Helpful Turtle
Timely Messenger
Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + scav + tech - ($12)
Plague lab #2, -1/-1 on all units - ($9)
Tap plague lab #1, add a -1/-1 to everything with one already, blade master dies - ($7)
Gorgon - ($4)
Fencer - ($2)
River - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4
Board Info:
In Patrol:
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Squad Leader: Gorgon (2/4A)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: Nimble Fencer (2/3)
-
Technician: River L1 (2/3)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Plague Lab #1 (3HP)
- Plague Lab #2 (3HP)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 18
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Disease)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 5
- Disc: 2
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 11
Thoughts
got kinda lucky with the sprading plagues NOT being in my hand this time, but I’m pretty sure he’s going to dunk on my next turn since I really wasn’t able to kill much.
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relentless atrophy, disease really does get underrated. GG WP!
CAMS22 Round 2 Player 2, Turn 11
P2 Nightmare-ish vs P1 Finesse/Necromancy/Disease
Link to full rule changes in effect
Starting Hand
Nimble Fencer
Discord
Deteriorate
Blademaster
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (11)
- No techs
All Teched Cards
Blademaster x2
Grounded Guide
Grounded Guide, Dark Pact
Star-Crossed Starlet x2
Leaping Lizard, Discord
Maestro, Nimble Fencer
Dark Pact, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Blademaster for free
- Nimble Fencer for free
- Deteriorate SQL, Fencer kills swiftly, you draw 1 (10)
- Vandy + Midband (6)
- Maxband Garth, fetch Star-Crossed Starlet (4)
- Lizard and Fencer kill Scav, both die to tower, you get 1g
- Garth kills River swiftly, takes 1, you draw 1, Vandy Maxbands and dooms Starlet
- Blademaster 9 + Starlet 7 + Maestro 2 + Grounded Guide 2 + River 1 deal 21 to your base, GG WP!
Wither is so good and this deck really brings the heat on defeating both hero and unit spam. Maybe I’d have finished earlier with more Meta threat (the SQL Vandy was definitely a bad choice in hindsight) but certainly made for a close and interesting game! GL next round Penatronic!
since the match has ended, i would like to give my 2 cents. HEr withering the imp was sub par. You had bloom in your hand. Had you used it on orpal, the turn would have been the same but you would have kept the rune, saving money for when you later bloomed orpal.
Here I would have rather broken tech I. Without it no fencer and no hasted units, hence even if he had maestro, it would have been useless. Also, with no haste threat, i would have probably sacced another skele to draw and get 1 more card (vandy’s sshot made the tech+scav 2 kills for 1 hit anyway.)
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Gg wp, after this game and reading through some older games I’m surprised nobody has mentioned nerfs to finesse. Maestro letting you have a free blade master feels silly. Changing his text to cost -2 would still be really strong
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good points, I am still very rusty and I’ve never actually played this spec before. I’ve been experimenting with [Neutral]/disese/x, not really sure what the best X is though. Considering how well this held out despite not getting to execute the wombo combo of plague n’ plague maybe necro is the answer.
Some spec with card draw/cycling to make the threat of big Maestro draws, probably. Disease technically has card draw, but it’s at Tech II as well.
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If you want a finesse/disease/draw engine, the best choice is imo either Necro with garth and skellies or peace. Otherwise aside from DP there’s nothing below t2, as charnel mouse said.
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Yeah, the main play I’m going for is Plague lab + Bloom + Spreading Plague type shenanigans, so the Gorgon at T2 is good from disease. The two options that seem most appealing are either Necro w/ Garth + skeles, plus gives access to the Bone Collector and nether drain, or Demonology with Vandy just being good and dark pact + the alternate win condition of Terras Q and discord, though that’s kind of meme-ey. Not sure what codices that would be good or bad against as I haven’t really tested it.
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Scribes draw too.
i have probably played a lot more scribes than anyone really should.
not good enough, imo. 1 card for 2 gold and 1 tech is not worth it compared to the BC’s ability to spam skellies, better stats, and garth basically drawing 1 card for 1 gold once per turn with midb.
one last bit of advice. One thing i noticed is that people underuse garth’s ult whereas i saw a great win rate for those who did. to give you an idea, it went like this: death rites->BC attacks, trades, DR kills another enemy.->garth sacs skellie to draw, kill another enemy->etc. Imo faced with an enemy spamming troops, midb+death rites can clear the field