[Tournament] eXperimental Codex Asynchronous Fall 2023 (XCAFS23)

Okay, here we go!

Round 1 part 1:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round1 part1: P1 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present vs P2 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse
  2. [XCAFS23] Round1 part1: P1 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon vs P2 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength
  3. [XCAFS23] Round1 part1: P1 dwarddd monopurple vs P2 Qwzmda [Finesse]/Demonology/Necromancy
  4. [XCAFS23] Round1 part1: P1 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline vs P2 flagrantangles monoblue
  5. [XCAFS23] Round1 part1: P1 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength vs P2 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth

Round 1 part 2:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round1 part2: P1 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse vs P2 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present
  2. [XCAFS23] Round1 part2: P1 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength vs P2 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon
  3. [XCAFS23] Round1 part2: P1 Qwzmda [Finesse]/Demonology/Necromancy vs P2 dwarddd monopurple
  4. [XCAFS23] Round1 part2: P1 flagrantangles monoblue vs P2 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline
  5. [XCAFS23] Round1 part2: P1 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth vs P2 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength

So it looks like @flagrantangles and @thehug0naut can continue their infinite casual round in a tournament setting and that it’s my honor to try and find a solution against the most oppressive turn 1 first.

edit: also please remember to mention the rule changes for the sake of spectators.

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Hmmmm, I didn’t realize there were rules changes at all. :laughing: Are they summarized somewhere? I want to make sure I get the right ones.

you can just copy-paste this:
Link to all relevant rule changes

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Just to check, should be starting and playing both these games at once, or just part 1 for now?

Whatever the two of you prefer. I’m definitely more into playing it one after the other, but it both of you want to play it in parallel, why not?

Hmmm, I guess simultaneous play would be the way to avoid not playing as hard as possible, but I think its not good for the players keeping focused (certainly not for me anyway).

@flagrantangles I’d prefer to play our part 1 first, so if you want you can leave up your part 2 post as is or edit it to a placeholder for now. I’ve not actually looked at it properly so when the time comes please feel free to retake that turn if you change your mind about it after our first game.

Oh, oops. I am harebrained today and didn’t even parse them as two parts. That’s on meeeee. :laughing:

Am I in time for round 1 pairings?

Either way, I’d like to join with [Finesse]/Peace/Truth

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Is this saying that this rule change is no longer in and Vandy’s maxband is the same as before?

Welcome @rathyAro it’s a pleasure to have you!

Yes, exactly. We shortly raised the issue but didn’t reach consensus, hence it’s the original wording.

@FrozenStorm : you just got an opponent! I just edited the round one links above, so you can start your match!

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@dwarddd : friendly reminder to please start your first game

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How we doing on the next round fam?

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so we have two dropouts, which narrows down the field to 8 players. Also I am very interested if there are further opinions on the above question:

But here we go with round 2 part 1:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round2 part1: P1 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present :medal_sports: vs :knockdown: P2 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength
  2. [XCAFS23] Round2 part1: P1 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline :medal_sports: vs :knockdown: P2 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon
  3. [XCAFS23] Round2 part1: P1 dwarddd monopurple :knockdown: vs :medal_sports: P2 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth
  4. [XCAFS23] Round2 part1: P1 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength :medal_sports: vs :knockdown: P2 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse

Round 2 part 2:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round2 part2: P1 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength :knockdown: vs :medal_sports: P2 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present
  2. [XCAFS23] Round2 part2: P1 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon :medal_sports: vs :knockdown: P2 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline
  3. [XCAFS23] Round2 part2: P1 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth :knockdown: vs :medal_sports: P2 dwarddd monopurple
  4. [XCAFS23] Round2 part2: P1 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse :knockdown: vs :medal_sports: P2 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength
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@charnel_mouse friendly reminder to please start your game

30 days for one round, I hope we’ll be able to speed up the next one :wink:

here comes round 3 part 1:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round3 part1: P1 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline vs P2 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present
  2. [XCAFS23] Round3 part1: P1 dwarddd monopurple vs P2 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon
  3. [XCAFS23] Round3 part1: P1 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength vs P2 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength
  4. [XCAFS23] Round3 part1: P1 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth vs P2 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse

and round 3 part 2:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round3 part2: P1 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present vs P2 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline
  2. [XCAFS23] Round3 part2: P1 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon vs P2 dwarddd monopurple
  3. [XCAFS23] Round3 part2: P1 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength vs P2 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength
  4. [XCAFS23] Round3 part2: P1 Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse vs P2 rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth

the current standings are:

Players Deck Wins Losses Byes
zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present 4 0 0
thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline 3 1 0
Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon 3 1 0
dwarddd monopurple 1 1 2
FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength 2 2 0
charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength 2 2 0
rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth 1 3 0
Bryce_The_Rice [Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse 0 4 0

So @Bryce_The_Rice is on elimination and @rathyAro might get there during this round. @Bryce_The_Rice : In case you do lose the first game of this round you are entitled for a rematch, even though you already are eliminated.

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@thehug0naut & @charnel_mouse in order to not take again 30 days for the round, please start your matches soon

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How we doin fam?

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Edit: we say goodbye to @Bryce_The_Rice standings below are updated. Unfortunately it’s too late to edit the turn 3 post so I can’t include the win/loose information to the pairings above.

Here comes round 4:

Round 4 Part 1:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round4 part1: P1 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present vs P2 dwarddd monopurple
  2. [XCAFS23] Round4 part1: P1 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline vs P2 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength
  3. [XCAFS23] Round4 part1: P1 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon vs P2 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength
    bye: @rathyAro

Round 4 part 2:

  1. [XCAFS23] Round4 part2: P1 dwarddd monopurple vs P2 zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present
  2. [XCAFS23] Round4 part2: P1 charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength vs P2 thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline
  3. [XCAFS23] Round4 part2: P1 FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength vs P2 Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon
    bye: @rathyAro

the current standings read (please remember the one unfinished game)

Players Deck Wins Losses Byes
zango [Finesse]/Feral/Present 6 0 0
dwarddd monopurple 3 1 2
thehug0naut [Feral]/Present/Discipline 3 3 0
Dreamfire [Anarchy/Fire]/Demon 3 3 0
FrozenStorm [Anarchy]/Growth/Strength 3 3 0
charnel_mouse [Balance]/Blood/Strength 3 3 0
Bryce_The_Rice
rathyAro [Finesse]/Peace/Truth 2 4 0
[Demonology]/Necromancy/Finesse 1 5 0

so @thehug0naut @Dreamfire @FrozenStorm @charnel_mouse all might get eliminated in case they lose both of their matches of the current round.

I wish everybody a lot of fun and may no game be decided by unlucky draws!

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How we doing fam?

Hey everyone. I just simulated the next round. If @charnel_mouse wins, all is fine. If @thehug0naut wins, there is a pairing issue I want to discuss:
The standings then would be:
@dwarddd : 1 loss (and the only one with a bye round so far)
@zango : 2 losses
@FrozenStorm & @thehug0naut : 3 losses
@rathyAro : 4 losses
@Dreamfire & @charnel_mouse : 5 losses → elimination

and the following pairing history of the remaining players:
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With the basic settings of the penalty algorithm this would result in a direct rematch of @dwarddd & myself. If I increase the direct rematch penalty accordingly (a large incement would be needed), it would result in a bye for me which I resent even more. If I increase both the direct rematch penalty and the unbalanced bye penalty I get the result which I would prefer: @rathyAro getting the bye and random choice between @dwarddd playing against @FrozenStorm or @thehug0naut and me playing against the other. But increasing these two values significantly results in an unbalanced set of parameters which I also resent, as I don’t know whether this might lead to other unwanted issues over the next rounds.

Does anyone have an opinion on what I should do? I’m especially looking at the former tournament organizers @FrozenStorm & @charnel_mouse - what pairing type would you have selected if it were your responsibillity to decide?
If not I’ll just choose spontaneously between variant one or three, once the final game of this round has been decided.