Casual: HolyTispon (mono-White) vs. Jadiel (Mono-blue)

"P1T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Training Ground
Thunderclap


STARTING HAND
Fuzz Cuddles
Sparring Partner
Fox Primus
Grappling Hook
Smoker
Bird’s Nest
Rambasa Twin


WORKERS
Savior Monk
Morningstar Flagbearer
Fox Viper
Safe Attacking
Smoker


NextHand

Sensei’s Advice
Thunderclap
Aged Sensei
Sparring Partner


Discard

Grappling Hook
Fox Primus
Rambasa Twin
Training Ground
Thunderclap


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
(during upkeep, draw 2 cards)
Grappling Hook removes your Hound Scavanger
Rook - ($5)
Bird’s Nest - ($3)
Fuzz Cuddles - ($1)
Sparring Partner - ($0)
Setsuki attacks Oni, removes his shield and deals 2 damage, takes 2

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Fuzz cuddles (2/3)A
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: Bird (2/1)
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Sparring Partner
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Setsuki level 6 (3/2), pay 1 to attack
  • Bird (1/1)
  • L1 Rook (2/4)
  • Bird’s Nest
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Discipline)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 5
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
    "

P2T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Eyes of the Chancellor
Spectral Tiger


STARTING HAND
Macchiatus, the Whisperer
Reteller of Truths
Lawful Search
Building Inspector
Liberty Gryphon


WORKERS
Jail
Reputable Newsman
Porkhand Magistrate
Bluecoat Musketeer
Building Inspector


NextHand

Liberty Gryphon
Liberty Gryphon
Manufactured Truth
Arrest


Discard

Spectral Hound
Lawful Search
Eyes of the Chancellor
Spectral Tiger


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float + scav - ($13)
Worker - ($12)
Tech III - ($7)
Macchiatus, the Whisperer - ($5)
Reteller of Truths - ($3)
Bigby - ($1)
Spectral Hound kills Fuzz Cuddles
Spectral Aven kills Sparring Partner, you get 1g
Oni trades with Setsuki, Rook and Bigby to L3 - ($0)

Float ($0)
Stash 1, Discard 1, draw 3


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: L3 Bigby (2/4A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Reteller of Truths (4/4, Illusion)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Macchiatus, the Whisperer (3/3)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Spectral Aven (3/3, Flying, Illusion)
  • Spectral Hound (4/2, Illusion)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 4
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10

In this case I understood the following ruling:

Fliers cannot ignore flying patrollers. The usual rules of the patrol zone apply, meaning if you want to attack with a flier at all, that flier CAN attack patrolling fliers so it must do that rather than attack other things such as non-patrollers or tech buildings. — Sirlin

To mean that you’d have to attack the patrolling bird before you can attack anything. But the way you understand is that it blocks you from attacking non-patrollers but allows you to attack non-flying patrollers? Is that the case?

Edit: From what I’ve seen in the rules thread, both the bard and the spectral hound go back to your hand.

"P1T6


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Training Ground
Versatile Style


STARTING HAND
Thunderclap
Sparring Partner
Aged Sensei
Sensei’s Advice


WORKERS
Savior Monk
Morningstar Flagbearer
Fox Viper
Safe Attacking
Smoker
Aged Sensei


NextHand

Snapback
Versatile Style
Training Ground


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Scavenger - ($9)
Sensei’s advice to buff the Birds - ($8)
two birds kill the whisperer
Thunderclap kills the Bard and Hound - ($6)
midband Rook - ($4)
Grave - ($2)
midband Grave - ($0)
Rook deals 3 damage to Tech 3

Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Grave (3/4)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Bird (1/1)
  • Bird (1/1)
  • L5 Rook (3/5)
  • Bird’s Nest
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Discipline)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 10
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
    "

I’m pretty sure what that means is that while flyers normally can ignore the usual attacking rules and attack what they like, if there is a flying patroller, then it cannot be ignored, and the normal attacking rules apply. However, once the Squad Leader is dead, I don’t need to ignore the normal rules, because I’m allowed to attack someone in Scavenger normally. So I’m not ignoring your flyer, I’m attacking a legal target. If your bird was in Squad Leader I wouldn’t be able to ignore it and attack scavenger because the attacking rules say that you have to attack Squad Leader if there’s a unit there.

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Though in this case it wasn’t about the SQL dying, but about the fact it didn’t have flying. You could have attacked the bird even before Cuddles died.
I see the point - all the patrollers, other than squad leaders, are in one line. And the bird blocks your way to anything behind that line but not to anyone in the line. I thought that as long as the bird is in the line you’d have to attack it but I now see what you mean.

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Yes, you’re right, I could have killed Sparring Partner with Aven even if Cuddles was in Squad Lead. Sorry if that was misleading.

P2T6


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Arrest
Liberty Gryphon
Liberty Gryphon
Manufactured Truth
Traffic Director


WORKERS
Jail
Reputable Newsman
Porkhand Magistrate
Bluecoat Musketeer
Building Inspector


NextHand

Macchiatus, the Whisperer
Spectral Tiger
Spectral Hound
Manufactured Truth
Traffic Director


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + scav - ($11)
Quince & Mirror - ($9)
Liberty Gryphon - ($6)
Gryphon kills Rook, Quince to L3
Bigby and Aven kill Grave, Quince to L5, you draw
Liberty Gryphon #2 - ($3)
Quince maxband turns Mirror into Gryphon
Mirrored Gryphon destroys your Tech II, your base to 18
Gryphon #2 destroys your Tech I, your base to 16
Spectral Hound - ($2)
Reteller of Truths - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Spectral Hound (3/3A, Illusion)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Reteller of Truths (3/3, Illusion)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Spectral Aven (2/2, Flying, Illusion)
  • Liberty Gryphon #1 (5/5, Flying, Haste, Illusion)
  • Liberty Gryphon #2 (5/5, Flying, Haste, Illusion)
  • L3 Bigby (2/1)
  • Mirrored Liberty Gryphon (5/5, Flying, Haste, Illusion)
  • L5 Quince (1/5)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10

GG

Too easy?

Thanks for the gracious game, @jadiel. I definitely learned how to play by forum and I enjoyed the game, but there’s clearly a big skill difference and it takes some time to learn the cards. I’d love to play some more but it would probably be better to find an opponent of my level?

No, not at all - if you had patrolled bird in SQL and I couldn’t have killed Setsuki, I think she could have caused me a lot of trouble. I also misplayed on turn 4 I think, I shouldn’t have patrolled either Hound, as I was pretty sure you couldn’t get through Oni in SQL, and I was opening myself up to Grappling Hook. Although you could have used GHook to kill Oni then I guess.

I’ve never played blue before, so it was an interesting experience. I’m up for another game if you are?

ETA: I don’t think the skill difference is as big as you think, but if you’d prefer to play against someone else, that’s fine :slight_smile:

I patrolled it in Elite to kill your Aven if you attacked it, because it gave me a tremendous headache.

I’m happy to play again, if you don’t mind the fact that I don’t know what I’m doing. I would love to play purple of black. You can play whatever you like.

I’ll play blue again. Shall I go first this time? Also, are you playing purple or black? It makes a pretty big difference to my first couple of turns…

I’ll do Purple. I now that Blue vs. Black is considered tough, but I’ll do a good job with that. In any case, I’ll just try purple for now.

You’re going first, right?

Sorry, I had an emergency at work, and haven’t really had time to play.

P1T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Spectral Aven
Arrest
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Reputable Newsman


WORKERS
Reputable Newsman


NextHand

Building Inspector
Traffic Director
Bluecoat Musketeer
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail


Discard

Manufactured Truth
Lawful Search
Arrest


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
Spectral Aven - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Spectral Aven (2/2, Flying, Illusion)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 5

No worries. I just wanted to make sure. Take your time and play whenever works for you.

GLHF

"P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Forgotten Fighter
Nullcraft
Fading Argonaut
Neo Plexus
Plasmodium


WORKERS
Forgotten Fighter


NextHand

Time Spiral
Hardened Mox
Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Temporal Research


Discard

Plasmodium
Neo Plexus
Fading Argonaut


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Nullcraft - ($2)
Max Geiger L1 (2/3) - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: Nullcraft
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Max Geiger L1 (2/3)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
    "

Seems dangerous to patrol like that - unfortunately I didn’t have Manufactured Truth to punish you for it!

P1T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Brave Knight
Overeager Cadet


STARTING HAND
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Traffic Director
Building Inspector
Porkhand Magistrate


WORKERS
Reputable Newsman
Porkhand Magistrate


NextHand

Bluecoat Musketeer
Traffic Director
Lawful Search
Overeager Cadet
Jail


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Tech I - ($4)
Building Inspector - ($3)
Oni - ($1)
Aven deals 2 damage to Geiger

Float ($1)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: L1 Oni (2/3A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1, you pay 1 extra to build)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Spectral Aven (2/2)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 6

I told you that I have no clue what I’m doing. Even though I’ve already played against blue and suffered from that damned Aven. So I took care of it now. I took care of it NOW!

"P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Now!
Now!


STARTING HAND
Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Temporal Research
Time Spiral
Hardened Mox
Now!


WORKERS
Forgotten Fighter
Temporal Research


NextHand

Neo Plexus
Plasmodium
Time Spiral
Fading Argonaut


Discard

Now!
Battle Suits
Hardened Mox


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Nullcraft kills the inspector, you draw
Midband Geiger - ($3)
Geiger discards to draw
Now! on your Aven - ($2)
Tinkerer - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Tinkerer
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Nullcraft
  • Max Geiger L3 (2/4)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7
    "

P1T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Overeager Cadet
Spectral Hound


STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Overeager Cadet
Traffic Director
Arrest
Manufactured Truth


WORKERS
Reputable Newsman
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail


NextHand

Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Brave Knight
Traffic Director


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($7)
Oni casts Lawful Search on your hand, I draw - ($6)
Overeager Cadet
Traffic Director - ($5)
Oni casts Manufactured Truth on Traffic Director, turning it into Nullcraft - ($4)
Nullcrafts trade
Oni kills Tinkerer, taking 1 damage, you draw
Worker - ($3)

Float ($3)
Discard 2, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 3


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Overeager Cadet (2/2A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • L1 Oni (2/2)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 6
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 3
  • Workers: 7

Just a question: here, you could have attacked first with Oni and then cast Lawful Search to see my hand including the new card, correct? The only wrinkle is that if you did that we wouldn’t be able to play easily on the forum as we do because You’d have to stop your turn to see what I draw?