So I thought you only meant half of your change, hence my summary. The comps for choosing without targeting would be Manufactured Truth, Chaos Mirror and Eyes of Chancellor so there is precedent.
If it helps you decide which way seems fairer, I wasn’t using Elite to stop that particular effect hitting Flagbearer, it was for StW/Hoodie protection. On the other hand, I also think forced weakest feels more in keeping with Black than choosing without targeting.
That all said, I think as your turn is written you’d have to StW the Flagbearer not the Aven, Aven has 4 attack when you play StW compared to Flagbearer’s 3.
Okay gotcha, apologies for the confusion, I meant it as a shorthand for what I had described.
StW prioritizes lower tech over lower attack power so I’m confused why you’d suggest it needs to be Flagbearer (a tech 1) over Aven (a tech 0). “The lowest tech unit with the least attack” is Aven, as it is the only tech 0 unit.
EDIT I’ve re-read the Flagbearer text as well and Flagbearer only requires it be the choice of targets “when using a targeting spell or ability”. So I don’t think I’d need to chose it with Vandy maxband even if we were still making it my choice of tech 0 or tech 1 unit. I still like the weakest unit text better, like you said it fits with Black and adds a drawback potential of buffing opposing units on their turn.
So I think my turn is good, anything else you see that we’d be missing?
Aaah I think I just forgot all about the lowest tech part of weakest. Yes turn is good and if you’re happy then I’m happy and I’ll take a look at my next turn plans
Edit: there is one issue, I’m playing Lawful Search but you don’t have any end of turn hand - copypasta?
Yep, since there were three cards in my deck and I was drawing three cards, I mentally skipped the “paste your new hand into the next hand part” phase of posting my turn updated now!
Jurisdiction (Let’s me choose the optimal spell for each situation. Probably Injunction or Free Speech)
Jurisdiction (Ditto)
STARTING HAND
Spectral Flagbearer
Reputable Newsman
Surplus Draw → Lawful Search
Lawful Search Draw → Injunction
Bigby Draw → The Art of War
WORKERS
Building Inspector
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
Bluecoat Musketeer
NextHand
Reputable Newsman
Manufactured Truth
The Art of War
Discard
Spectral Hound
Flagstone Garrison
Flagstone Garrison
Traffic Director
Arrest
General’s Hammer
General’s Hammer
Spectral Aven
Lawful Search
The Art of War
Injunction
Jurisdiction
Jurisdiction
Tech 2 card(s)
Surplus Draw
Get Paid - ($8)
Lawful Search, I draw a card and look at your hand - ($7)
Exhaust Bigby, draw a card
The Art of War, Super Saiyan Oni annihilates Vandy, levels whiff - ($4)
Spectral Flagbearer - ($3)
Injunction your Tech II - ($0)
Phew! I thought I was never going to draw that Art of War
Lawful Search really helped figure out the best plan for board control. I didn’t see much use for Bigby outside of spell casting so giving me even more cards to work with seems like a plan. I think without Vandy and his Tech II disabled he’s in a lot of trouble, he can only draw one card with Garth so I don’t see how he gets rid of both Flagbearers and gets to Oni. I’ve teched Jurisdiction because I think Bigby is a low priority for him to kill and I’d like to have access to Free Speech on my next turn if possible. Newsman is a good substitute though, hence Stashing him.
Very fortunate technician here breaks the game wide open, glad I teched the second Sickness. Probably should have gotten Nether Drain and Hoodie too, but happy to be lucky Up two workers and a tech building and now big board presence, I think it should be all but over
Well that’s one way to turn the tables! Thought I had you locked down. Don’t think I properly considered the HH though
One more turn but I’m probably throwing in the towel after, unless you’ve really whiffed
P1T8
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Judgment Day (last ditch comeback attempt)
Judgment Day (same)
STARTING HAND
Reputable Newsman
The Art of War
Manufactured Truth → Worker (Don’t think it can help me now)
Surplus → Flagstone Garrison
Technician → General’s Hammer
WORKERS
Building Inspector
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
Bluecoat Musketeer
Manufactured Truth
NextHand
Spectral Hound
Spectral Aven
Spectral Flagbearer
The Art of War
Jurisdiction
Discard
The Art of War
Flagstone Garrison
General’s Hammer
Judgment Day
Judgment Day
@FrozenStorm I’m sorry I’ve been so rubbish these last few weeks. Work has really been overwhelming with my boss off sick and I’m on just getting it under control. Will work on getting back to more regular posting
It’s all good man, it’s nice to have a game goin’ still, since I’ve had to step away from regular tournament hosting and others also have gotten busy it’s been a little light here
Well I wouldn’t mind hosting another tournament but will not be able to play for myself and I hesitated with intervening in a proper way to bring the necessary balance changes to a new agreement. If you manage the latter I would love to do the former…
Happy to resign there. No way I recover from that big swing.
Obviously I went too low hand in this game, I thought I would be able to recover faster than I did but then each turn I felt like I needed to keep up the card spend to keep you on the back foot. I also kept expecting to draw Art of War but I’d bottom decked it!
I think we should play some more games to evaluate our changes further. Do you want me to stick as P1 or should we switch back to P1 Black and focus on that matchup?
I agree, down on cards was aggro and with better luck might have worked out, plus a timely draw of sickness for me makes me think we’re on the right track with the nerfs here. Go ahead and start another game and let’s see where this lies after a couple more!
Manufactured Truth
Spectral Aven → Stash (Want it next turn, not good to play on its own vs StW)
Arrest
Lawful Search
Porkhand Magistrate → Worker (Bad vs StW)
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
NextHand
Bluecoat Musketeer
Spectral Aven
Jail
Traffic Director
Building Inspector
Scribe (Card draw is needed)
Spectral Hound (Value play)
STARTING HAND
Spectral Aven
Traffic Director
Jail → Worker (Expensive and beaten by Graveyard)
Bluecoat Musketeer
Building Inspector
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
NextHand
Reputable Newsman
Spectral Hound
Lawful Search
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Tech I - ($4)
Spectral Aven - ($2)
Traffic Director - ($1)
Building Inspector - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader: Traffic Director 1/1A [Untargetable]
Elite:
Scavenger:
Technician: Building Inspector 1/1
Lookout:
In Play:
L1 Bigby Hayes 2/3 [Stash]
Spectral Aven 2/2 [Flying]
Buildings:
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Economy Info: Cards:
Hand: 3
Deck: 4
Disc: 0
Gold:
Gold: 0
Workers: 6
Thoughts
I think the way to play this is let Vandy kill Bigby which might force her to buff the Aven. Still won’t be able to kill her but at least she’ll be left on 1HP
updated now!
Base HP: 18
Patrol as below
Scavenger:
Technician:
hope you have a great weekend!