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[XCAPS21] Round 5: charnel_mouse [Finesse]/Blood/Necromancy vs zhavier [Fire]/Balance/Strength

Have fun, @zhavier!

P1T1

Starting hand: 5

Tenderfoot
Helpful Turtle
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Spark
Bloom

Thoughts

In theory, I have the best specs in the game here, so this is my game to lose. My main concerns are Balance copying haste, Strength generally being tanks, and not having much anti-air for Birds / Firebirds. At least zhavier has no way to give runes to Barbarbarians, so I probably won’t see Strength II here. Blood might be better than Finesse with the threat of Mimics. Skeleton spam is probably bad against Jaina, especially with Midori threatening to trash Skeletal Archery.

I’m not really sure who to open with, here. I don’t need Garth for a Skeleton, Tenderfoot’s fine for patrol against Mad Man. They all have tricks to help deal with Rook, if he appears.

  • Garth is the default option, and I just play this like [Necromancy]/Anarchy/Blood, but without Zane, and with a different starter. If Rook, appears, I could go for Doom Grasp early. Skeletons are a little less useful against Jaina, but they still take some effort to chew through. Not much of a concern for these first two turns, though, I’ve got a decent split for early blockers.
  • River is cheaper to level to 4 HP, so could make it harder to use Rook’s midband for a hero kill, especially facing the red starter. Discord is also good against Birds and Red starter. Discord might make her the easiest play against Rook, actually.
  • Drakk can midband to make my units hit harder. That’s expensive early on, though, and I only have limited access to haste this early on.

OK, River could be good for the early game. I probably still want to transition to Drakk later, though. Spark becomes the worker: I want to hang on to Flagbearer in case of Flame Arrow, and Helpful Turtle in case of sticky Birds.


Get paid - (4)
Worker - (3)
River Montoya - (1)
Tenderfoot - (0)
Discard 3, draw 5


:psblueshield: River L1 2/3+1A
:ps_: Tenderfoot 1/2

:heart: Base HP: 20


Hand: 5

Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Older Brother
Fruit Ninja
Wither

Deck: 0
Discard: 3

Helpful Turtle
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Bloom

Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Gold: 0
Workers: 5

4 x start
T1: Spark

Well, this matchup definitely feels like one your model got wrong :slight_smile:

"P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Bloodburn
Pillage
Makeshift Rambaster
Bombaster
Nautical Dog


WORKERS
Bloodburn


NextHand

Mad Man
Careless Musketeer
Charge
Scorch
Bloodrage Ogre


Discard

Nautical Dog
Makeshift Rambaster
Pillage


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Bombaster - ($2)
Rook - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Bombaster 2/2+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout: Rook 2/4

In Play:
*

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
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I’m sure I’ll find a way to lose, regardless :wink:

P1T2

Starting hand: 5

Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Older Brother
Fruit Ninja
Wither

Thoughts

Rook, as expected.

Bombaster lets zhavier take out a non-leader patroller, so Rook can walk past and kill River. However, that takes 5 gold, so unless zhavier also skips a worker it leaves Rook alone on 3 health. My remaining patroller and Fencers / Messenger would have a good chance of killing him. If he skips a worker to place a patroller or maxband, I’d have problems. However, if I put a unit in Lookout then he doesn’t have that spare gold anyway. But then, Mad Man allows a kill anyway.

On the other hand, if I just midband River and patrol her, none of that can happen, and there’s no good target for Bombaster to blow up on after hitting the Tenderfoot. Or I Wither Rook. Oh, no, he’s in Lookout, never mind.

Do I want to go for Fencers, or Collectors? Fencers are better if I go for Finesse, but with Drakk I might not need to, and I don’t need the haste as much either.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord


Get paid - (5)
Worker - (4)
Midband River - (2)
Tech I - (0)
Discard 4, shuffle 9, draw 5


:psblueshield: Tenderfoot 1/2+1A
:ps_: River L3 2/4 (exhaust: sideline Tech 0/I patroller)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5


Hand: 5

Granfalloon Flagbearer
Discord
Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Wither

Deck: 4

Helpful Turtle
Bloom
Bone Collector
Older Brother

Discard: 0
Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 2 teched = 12
1 on board
5 in hand
4 in deck
0 in discard
2 in workers
Total: 12


Gold: 0
Workers: 6

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja

P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Firebat
Firebat


STARTING HAND
Careless Musketeer
Mad Man
Charge
Scorch
Bloodrage Ogre


WORKERS
Bloodburn
Careless Musketeer


NextHand

Pillage
Makeshift Rambaster
Firebat
Mad Man


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Bloodrage Ogre - ($3)
Tech 1 - ($1)
Mad Man - ($0)
Mad man and Bombaster kill Tenderfoot

Float ($0)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Bloodrage Ogre 3/2+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout: Rook 2/4

In Play:

  • Bombaster 2/1

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7

P1T3

Starting hand: 5

Granfalloon Flagbearer
Discord
Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Wither

Thoughts

Discord isn’t too shabby here, Rook’s still alive but I can deal with everything else. I think I want to maxband River, too, after taking down the Ogre. That leaves 1 gold to get a Brick Thief, not great but a little better than a Timely Messenger, or skipping maxband to get a Flagbearer. River’s still vulnerable to double Lobber, though, maybe I play the Messenger too? I go down to a 3-card hand to do that. I think that’s my only good way to deal with the Ogre, though, unless I just Wither it instead. Then I’m looking at being able to patrol midband River by herself, with a gold to spare. She still dies to double Lobber. I’ll go with the original idea.

Going down on cards makes me more confident in taking Tech II cards now. Crashbarrows should be fine, I’m less sure about Gliders with a low hand size. Maybe Bugblatters or Ogre Recruiters instead? No, let’s keep things simple. Double Crashbarrow for now.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord
T3: 2 x Crashbarrow


Get paid - (6)
Worker - (5)
Discord, Bombaster dies, Bloodrage Ogre is 1/1+1A - (3)
River kills Bloodrage Ogre, takes 1
Maxband River - (1)
Cheap Brick Thief, your Tech I to 4 - (0)
Cheap Timely Messenger
Discard 1, draw 3


:psblueshield: Timely Messenger 1/1+1A (haste)
:exhaust: Brick Thief 2/1 (resist 1; attacks: 1 to a building, heal another building by 1)

River L5 3/4 (exhaust: sideline Tech 0/I patroller; Tech 0 units are cheaper)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5


Hand: 3

Helpful Turtle
Bloom
Bone Collector

Deck: 1

Older Brother

Discard: 5

Tenderfoot
Crashbarrow
Crashbarrow
Discord
Granfalloon Flagbearer

Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 4 teched = 14
2 on board
3 in hand
1 in deck
5 in discard
3 in workers
Total: 14


Gold: 0
Workers: 7

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja
T3: Wither

You mean Bombaster not Bugblatter.

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P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Wandering Mimic
Lobber


STARTING HAND
Makeshift Rambaster
Pillage
Mad Man
Firebat


WORKERS
Bloodburn
Careless Musketeer
Pillage


NextHand

Scorch
Firebat
Nautical Dog
Charge


Discard

Bombaster
Bloodrage Ogre
Mad Man
Makeshift Rambaster
Wandering Mimic
Lobber


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Firebat - ($4)
Tech 2 Balance - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Firebat 3/3+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Rook 2/4
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:
*

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Balance)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 6

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8

Does River’s maxband let Garth summon Skeletons for free? I’m guessing not, since the gold is for activating the ability rather than playing it.

P1T4

Starting hand: 3

Helpful Turtle
Bloom
Bone Collector

Thoughts

Bloom would let me kill Rook here, but it’s not worth losing all my units too, and with Firebat still on the board I’d be asking for River to be killed. I’ll just play it safe, teching up and getting the Collector out.

Double Firebat + Lobber is enough to take down a tech building if zhavier draws well, so I don’t know if I want to stuff the deck too much with Blood II units here. Maybe I take the other Bone Collector instead. Then, an Appel Stomp to help with draw issues, or Two Step to help my smaller units do well against high-health Balance units. Or maybe even a Hooded Executioner, which would compliment the Discord nicely. Let’s try that.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord
T3: 2 x Crashbarrow
T4: Bone Collector, Hooded Executioner


Get paid - (7)
Worker - (6)
Tech II Blood - (2)
Bone Collector - (0)
Discard 1, draw 1, shuffle 8, draw 2


:psblueshield: Bone Collector 3/3+1A (attacks: I get a Skeleton)
:ps_: Brick Thief 2/1 (resist 1; attacks: 1 to a building, heal another building by 1)
:target: Timely Messenger 1/1 (resist 0+1; haste)

River L5 3/4 (exhaust: sideline Tech 0/I patroller; Tech 0 units are cheaper)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5
:heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Blood)


Hand: 3

Older Brother
Discord
Hooded Executioner

Deck: 6

Tenderfoot
Crashbarrow
Crashbarrow
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Bone Collector
Bloom

Discard: 0
Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 6 teched = 16
3 on board
3 in hand
6 in deck
0 in discard
4 in workers
Total: 16


Gold: 0
Workers: 8

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja
T3: Wither
T4: Helpful Turtle

Agreed, its an ability that happens to create a tech 0 unit. Think Summon Skeletons, which River maxband would also ignore.

P2T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Flame Arrow
Lobber


STARTING HAND
Scorch
Nautical Dog
Firebat
Charge


WORKERS
Bloodburn
Careless Musketeer
Pillage
Nautical Dog


NextHand

Wandering Mimic
Firebat
Makeshift Rambaster
Bombaster
Lobber


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Maxband Rook - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Rook 4/6+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Firebat 3/3
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:
*

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Balance)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 6
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9

Yeah, makes sense, thanks.

P1T5

Starting hand: 3

Older Brother
Discord
Hooded Executioner

Thoughts

I wasn’t expecting a maxband Rook here, that’s a drag. Midband Drakk gives me 10 damage, 13 with River, which is enough to kill Rook, but at the expense of my entire board. That’s losing 11g+3c (9g with River discounts) to gain 11g, and I’d have 2 gold spare after the worker to play something to trade with the Firebat. That’s 2g+1c to gain 2c, which isn’t worth it either.

I think I just have the Executioner destroy the Firebat on arrival, after having River sideline it to block the Technician bonus. That leaves 2 gold for something, probably Drakk. Depends whether I think flying/stealth Mimics are likely, since one could take Drakk out easily. That just takes Birds. Or Owl, but I doubt zhavier took an Owl. I can’t exclude the possibility, I’ll just float the gold for now.

Do I want to sacrifice the Timely Messenger? I’m probably seeing Mimics arrive this turn, although they’ll probably get haste anyway from Lobbers or something. I’ll hold onto it, it could be good for a Technician bonus or something. Brick Thief and Bone Collector patrol on either side to try and get me a card, Collector goes in Lookout to discourage Entangling Vines.

Shoddy Gliders are looking good if I can deal with Birds. I’d like Kidnapping or Bloodlust, but Kidnapping can be a liability if Potent Basilisk can appear. I’ll go with Bloodlust. I’d also like Nether Drain to deal with Rook, but by the time I reshuffle he’ll hopefully be gone anyway.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord
T3: 2 x Crashbarrow
T4: Bone Collector, Hooded Executioner
T5: Bloodlust, Shoddy Glider


Get paid - (8)
Worker - (7)
River exhausts, sidelines Firebat
Hooded Executioner, boosted, Firebat dies - (2)
Discard 1, draw 3


:psblueshield: Hooded Executioner 3/3+1A
:ps_: Brick Thief 2/1 (resist 1; attacks: 1 to a building, heal another building by 1)
:exhaust: Timely Messenger 1/1 (haste)
:target: Bone Collector 3/3 (resist 0+1; attacks: I get a Skeleton)

River L5 3/4 (exhaust: sideline Tech 0/I patroller; Tech 0 units are cheaper)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5
:heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Blood)


Hand: 3

Crashbarrow
Bone Collector
Bloom

Deck: 3

Tenderfoot
Crashbarrow
Granfalloon Flagbearer

Discard: 3

Bloodlust
Shoddy Glider
Discord

Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 8 teched = 18
4 on board
3 in hand
3 in deck
3 in discard
5 in workers
Total: 18


Gold: 2
Workers: 9

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja
T3: Wither
T4: Helpful Turtle
T5: Older Brother

P2T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Bird’s Nest
Potent Basilisk


STARTING HAND
Wandering Mimic
Firebat
Bombaster
Lobber
Makeshift Rambaster


WORKERS
Bloodburn
Careless Musketeer
Pillage
Nautical Dog


NextHand

Flame Arrow
Lobber
Bloodrage Ogre


Discard

Firebat
Lobber
Bombaster
Bird’s Nest
Potent Basilisk


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Wandering Mimic - ($5)
Lobber - ($4)
Firebat - ($2)
Makeshift Rambaster - ($0)
Mimic kills SQL
Rambaster kills Messenger
Lobber trades with Brick Thief
Rook kills River walking past BC

Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 3


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Firebat 3/3+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Wandering Mimic 4/1
  • Makeshift Rambaster 1/1
  • Rook 4/3, lvl 8

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Balance)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 5

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

Soon to be steamrolled. I cant let him keep building board, but chances are good i lose my tech 2 here. f i had a hero that midbanded at lvl 3 i’d at least have a better patrol and more cards, but as it is, i don’t want to give him the free levels to fuel garth or drakk.

P1T6

Starting hand: 3

Crashbarrow
Bone Collector
Bloom

Technician draw: 1

Granfalloon Flagbearer

Thoughts

Er, OK. That’s an interesting Technician draw. I could block a potential Flame Arrow with the Flagbearer, but I’m not sure what I’d be stopping it from hitting.

Worker + Crashbarrow + Collector + Flagbearer is 9g, leaving 3g. That’s enough for either a hero or a Tower, or Garth + Skeleton. Alternatively, I skip the Flagbearer and have 6g, which is enough for midband Drakk, or midband Garth + Skeleton. I don’t think midband Drakk does much for me here, since Crashbarrow + Collector is just enough to destroy Tech II. Flagbearer blocks a Flame Arrow if zhavier’s tried to go for hero knockouts.

OK, I think Flagbearer + Garth gives me enough on the board to be comfortable dumping my hand. I know I’m drawing the second Crashbarrow, and if Garth survives I can play it twice as an alternative to bringing in midband Drakk.

Final techs are the second Glider and a Bugblatter, I expect there to continue being lots of weenie deaths.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord
T3: 2 x Crashbarrow
T4: Bone Collector, Hooded Executioner
T5: Bloodlust, Shoddy Glider
T6: Captured Bugblatter, Shoddy Glider


Get paid + 2 float + scavenger - (12)
Worker - (11)
Crashbarrow - (8)
Crashbarrow trades with Firebat, hits Tech II to 3
Bone Collector destroys Tech II, your base to 18, Skeleton arrives
Bone Collector #2 - (6)
Garth Torken - (4)
Garth raises Skeleton #2 - (3)
Granfalloon Flagbearer - (0)
Discard 0, draw 2


:psblueshield: Bone Collector #2 3/3+1A (attacks: I get a Skeleton)
:psfist: Skeleton #1 1+1/1
:ps_: Skeleton #2 1/1
:exhaust: Granfalloon Flagbearer 2/2 (Flagbearer)

Garth L1 1/3 (1g: summon a Skeleton, once per turn)
Bone Collector #1 3/3 (attacks: I get a Skeleton)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5
:heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Blood)


Hand: 2

Tenderfoot
Crashbarrow

Deck: 0
Discard: 9

Bloodlust
Shoddy Glider
Discord
Hooded Executioner
Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Captured Bugblatter
Shoddy Glider
Crashbarrow

Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 10 teched = 20
3 on board
2 in hand
0 in deck
9 in discard
6 in workers
Total: 20


Gold: 0
Workers: 10

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja
T3: Wither
T4: Helpful Turtle
T5: Older Brother
T6: Bloom

lawl.

P2T6


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Wandering Mimic
Entangling Vines


STARTING HAND
Flame Arrow
Bloodrage Ogre
Lobber


WORKERS
Bloodburn
Careless Musketeer
Pillage
Nautical Dog
Flame Arrow


NextHand

Charge
Scorch


Discard

Firebat
Lobber
Bombaster
Bird’s Nest
Potent Basilisk
Firebat
Wandering Mimic
Makeshift Rambaster 1/1
Wandering Mimic
Entangling Vines


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Mimic trades with SQL
Lobber - ($7)
Rambaster kills Elite
Lobber kils other Skeleton
Surplus - ($2)
Rook kills backline BC, crumbles
Bloodrage Ogre - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 0, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Bloodrage Ogre 3/2
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Lobber 2/1
  • Rook 4/6, lvl 8, crumbling

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 18
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Balance)
  • :heart: Surplus HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 10

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10

P1T7

Starting hand: 2

Tenderfoot
Crashbarrow

Thoughts

I can take a double tech break here, but I’m just going to go for a base kill instead, throw a few more base-damage cards into my deck before the reshuffle.

Teched cards: 2

T2: Bone Collector, Discord
T3: 2 x Crashbarrow
T4: Bone Collector, Hooded Executioner
T5: Bloodlust, Shoddy Glider
T6: Captured Bugblatter, Shoddy Glider
T7: 2 x Crash Bomber


Get paid + scavenger - (11)
Crashbarrow - (8)
Crashbarrow trades with Bloodrage Ogre, hits your base to 14, you draw
Maxband Garth, Crashbarrow reappears - (2)
Drakk Ramhorn - (0)
Garth, Flagbearer, and Crashbarrow hit your base to 3
Discard 1, shuffle 14, draw 3
Crashbarrow collapses in a heap


:exhaust: Drakk L1 1/3 (dies: 1 to your base)

Garth L7 3/4 (1g: summon a Skeleton, once per turn; sacrifice a Skeleton: draw a card)
Granfalloon Flagbearer 2/2 (Flagbearer)

:heart: Base HP: 20
:heart: Tech I HP: 5
:heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Blood)


Hand: 3

Bone Collector
Crash Bomber
Crash Bomber

Deck: 11

Bloodlust
Shoddy Glider
Discord
Hooded Executioner
Timely Messenger
Brick Thief
Captured Bugblatter
Shoddy Glider
Crashbarrow
Bone Collector
Tenderfoot

Discard: 1

Crashbarrow

Card-count check (opponent-viewable)

Expected: 10 + 12 teched = 22
1 on board
3 in hand
11 in deck
1 in discard
6 in workers
Total: 22


Gold: 0
Workers: 10

4 x start
T1: Spark
T2: Fruit Ninja
T3: Wither
T4: Helpful Turtle
T5: Older Brother
T6: Bloom

Fairly predictably, no way I come back from that.

GG!

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GG! As you said, it seems odd the model considers this fair, given I got probably the three best specs in the game. Looks like that’s mostly due to Balance and Strength being considered as good against Blood, but Garth’s going to upset that.

Yea, I was surprised because I thought the matches were weighted towards codices that weren’t strong, but maybe that was a different mode.

That’s One Hand Tied, which would be based off Nash weights (general strength) rather than looking at specific deck matchups. In retrospect, that’s probably more robust given the data size.