[XCAFS18] CarpeGuitarrem MonoRed vs Bomber678 [Necro]/Truth/Blood

[CarpeGuitarrem]

AGGGGGH CURSE YOU

But gg! Man that was well-played. Death hanging just out of reach. I was waiting for the moment when you’d fail to produce Free Speech.

[Bryce_The_Rice]

I got real lucky with the draws, it’s true.
Turn five, right before reshuffle, I’m at 5 health and just look at the game state like “Unless I can cast Free Speech every turn from now until I win, I die” so I immediately teched 2 copies and hoped for the best.

Gg dude.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

I was glued to my phone screen the whole time.

[FrozenStorm]

@Bryce_The_Rice

That was an amazing comeback, @CarpeGuitarrem you did a great job going at lethal and man, 4hp base…

GG to you both that was fun to watch!

[CarpeGuitarrem]

I keep asking myself how I could’ve gotten more damage through, maybe not shoved literally all the burn spells in my deck, but…I think it was just a great game all around.

The wild thing is that Free Speech not only blocked burn spells, it also blocked 2 base damage.

[FrozenStorm]

@Bryce_The_Rice

• Summon Land Ocotpus with haste, copy it ($1)
• Mirror Octopus destroys Zane with deadly tentacles, hits your base for 4 damage

@zhavier just to confirm this is legit, does Quince maxband work this way?

[CarpeGuitarrem]

It should; Octo had haste when it arrived.

EDIT: worst case, I think it’s two simultaneous effects that Bomber can order.

[Bryce_The_Rice]

@CarpeGuitarrem Yeah man, it kept me in the game.

@FrozenStorm Oh geez, having checked the rulings I’m actually totally uncertain now. Have I cheated???

[Bryce_The_Rice]

Oh wait, it’s ok anyway, there’s still a line of play that kills without copying Octopus. I can get Glider out of my graveyard and copy that, dealing 8 damage through those instead. PHEW

[FrozenStorm]

Certainly haven’t cheated, certainly might be an incorrect interpretation of the rules though.

I know copies don’t inherit add-on props like an attached spell or runes, but the Drakk maxband modifier is unclear to me whether it would get copies by the maxband

[Bryce_The_Rice]

I found this here post which suggests that it does not gain haste granted by Drakk:

Rules Questions thread

The Haste from Drakk’s max-band is permanent, so that Bombaster will have Haste until it leaves play. This matters if your opponent plays Wandering Mimic or steals Bombaster using Mind Control or Ogre Recruiter. The Haste from Drakk’s max-band is not copied by copy effects. Here is a comprehensive list of things copied by copy effects: The stuff printed on the card (including color, types, abilities, atk, hp, tech level, cost, and probably some other stuff I forgot, but not including whether …

[Bryce_The_Rice]

In light of this, I shall go and edit my turn so that it is properly legal (but still very lethal)

[FrozenStorm]

@Bryce_The_Rice

Oh wait, it’s ok anyway, there’s still a line of play that kills without copying Octopus. I can get Glider out of my Graveyard and copy that, dealing 8 damage through those instead. PHEW

Cool cool

@Bryce_The_Rice

I found this here post which suggests that it does not gain haste granted by Drakk:

@Bryce_The_Rice

In light of this, I shall go and edit my turn so that it is properly legal (but still very lethal)

Good to know!

[Bryce_The_Rice]

Thanks for calling me out, I gotta make sure I’m playing by the rules.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

Slightly less cool, still lethal.

[Bryce_The_Rice]

The True Cool version of that line is sacrificing Drakk into Zane to gain 1 more net base damage (after calculating loss of frenzy+extra overpower+drakk death base damage)

[zhavier]

You have correctly identified the rulings, Octomirror would not get drakk haste just because the real Octo gets it.

And great game to you both.