State of the Game - mid 2017

Yomi
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Yeah, totally. I actually have the numbers from the The Yomi Composite Chart in my code as well, although I haven’t run the most recent analyses using them.

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Double-blind pick, personally, is going to be a character that (1) counterpicks my opponent’s stable of characters, and (2) hedges against the counterpick to that pick, with some sort of weighting based on what I know about them. Against character specialists I basically disregard #2. After all, you’re playing against a specific person, not an aggregated set of stats.

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Yeah, the double-blind pick definitely has the whole Yomi Levels 1-3 going on, and also definitely needs to be informed by some knowledge of who your opponent likes to play (or so it would seem, not having actually had any tournament experience to back that statement up by :smile:).

EDIT: Also known as: theory-crafting only goes so far…

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Big data dump.

Format is X-Y -> C (Z%), C (Z%), C (Z%):

  • X: Number of wins you need
  • Y: Number of wins your opponent needs
  • C: Who you should pick
  • Z: How f****d are you? What’s your projected win percentage?
    20XX Meta
    Historical counterpicks
Argagarg counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Quince (98.7%), Zane (98.4%), Gloria (98.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Quince (96.1%), Zane (95.3%), Gloria (95.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Quince (89.7%), Zane (88.6%), Gloria (88.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Quince (88.4%), Zane (86.1%), Gloria (85.7%)
  • 2-3 -> Quince (77.8%), Zane (75.8%), Gloria (75.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Quince (73.5%), Zane (72.0%), Setsuki (71.1%)
  • 1-1 -> Quince (66.0%), Zane (59.0%), Gloria (58.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Quince (55.3%), Zane (52.8%), Troq (51.6%)
  • 3-3 -> Quince (53.7%), Zane (52.1%), Setsuki (51.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Quince (53.3%), Zane (52.1%), Setsuki (51.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Quince (32.6%), Zane (32.0%), Setsuki (31.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Quince (28.2%), Zane (28.0%), Setsuki (27.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (21.5%), Setsuki (20.9%), Zane (20.7%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (13.7%), Setsuki (13.7%), Zane (13.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (8.4%), DeGrey (8.2%), Setsuki (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (3.3%), Troq (3.3%), Setsuki (3.0%)
BBB counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (99.1%), Grave (98.8%), Zane (98.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (97.0%), Grave (96.2%), Zane (96.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (92.7%), Grave (91.1%), DeGrey (90.6%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (90.4%), Grave (87.6%), Zane (87.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (83.0%), Grave (79.7%), DeGrey (78.7%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (77.3%), Grave (74.9%), Zane (74.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (69.0%), Grave (60.0%), Zane (58.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (62.6%), Grave (57.3%), DeGrey (55.1%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (59.6%), Grave (56.4%), DeGrey (54.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (57.9%), Grave (55.4%), Zane (53.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (37.7%), Grave (35.0%), DeGrey (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (35.1%), Grave (31.6%), DeGrey (30.0%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (26.9%), DeGrey (22.4%), Grave (22.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (17.8%), Grave (15.8%), DeGrey (15.1%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (10.5%), DeGrey (9.0%), Grave (8.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (4.1%), DeGrey (3.6%), Grave (3.0%)
DeGrey counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Setsuki (97.4%), Geiger (97.2%), Vendetta (97.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Setsuki (93.6%), Geiger (93.1%), Vendetta (93.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Setsuki (88.3%), Geiger (88.1%), Vendetta (87.7%)
  • 1-2 -> Setsuki (84.0%), Geiger (82.8%), Vendetta (82.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Setsuki (76.2%), Geiger (76.0%), Vendetta (75.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (72.8%), Geiger (71.8%), Zane (70.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Setsuki (60.0%), Geiger (57.0%), Vendetta (56.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (54.6%), Setsuki (54.6%), Vendetta (52.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (54.0%), Geiger (53.2%), Zane (51.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (53.6%), Geiger (52.7%), Zane (51.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (33.8%), Geiger (33.1%), Zane (31.4%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (30.0%), Setsuki (29.6%), Rook (27.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (22.8%), Geiger (22.2%), Troq (21.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (15.1%), Setsuki (14.7%), Rook (13.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (8.7%), Setsuki (8.7%), Troq (8.4%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.4%), Setsuki (3.3%), Troq (3.3%)
Geiger counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Zane (97.7%), Grave (97.4%), Persephone (97.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Zane (94.1%), Grave (93.5%), Persephone (93.3%)
  • 2-4 -> Zane (88.3%), Grave (87.6%), Argagarg (87.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Zane (84.8%), Grave (83.2%), Persephone (82.8%)
  • 2-3 -> Zane (76.0%), Grave (75.1%), Argagarg (74.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Zane (72.5%), Argagarg (71.5%), Grave (71.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Zane (61.0%), Grave (57.0%), Persephone (56.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Zane (53.9%), Grave (53.4%), Argagarg (52.8%)
  • 3-3 -> Zane (53.4%), Grave (52.9%), Argagarg (52.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Zane (53.0%), Grave (52.5%), Argagarg (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Zane (33.0%), Grave (32.8%), Argagarg (32.1%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (29.3%), Zane (28.4%), Argagarg (28.1%)
  • 2-1 -> Zane (21.3%), Grave (21.1%), Geiger (19.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Grave (14.7%), Zane (13.7%), Argagarg (13.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Grave (7.8%), Geiger (7.6%), Zane (7.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.0%), Grave (2.9%), DeGrey (2.8%)
Gloria counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (99.1%), Midori (99.0%), BBB (99.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (97.0%), Midori (96.8%), BBB (96.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (92.7%), Midori (91.9%), BBB (91.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (90.4%), Midori (89.8%), BBB (89.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (83.0%), Midori (81.3%), BBB (80.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (77.3%), Midori (75.8%), Zane (74.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (69.0%), Midori (67.0%), BBB (65.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (62.6%), Midori (59.7%), Troq (57.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (59.6%), Midori (57.0%), Zane (55.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (57.9%), Midori (55.9%), Zane (54.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (37.7%), Midori (34.9%), Zane (34.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (35.1%), Midori (31.6%), Troq (30.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (26.9%), Midori (24.8%), Troq (23.8%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (17.8%), Midori (15.3%), Troq (14.7%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (10.5%), Troq (9.3%), Midori (9.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (4.1%), Troq (3.6%), Midori (3.4%)
Grave counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Quince (98.1%), Persephone (97.9%), Argagarg (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Quince (94.9%), Persephone (94.4%), Argagarg (94.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Quince (88.7%), Persephone (88.1%), Argagarg (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Quince (86.3%), Persephone (84.8%), Argagarg (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Quince (76.4%), Argagarg (75.6%), Persephone (75.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Quince (72.6%), Argagarg (72.2%), Persephone (71.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Quince (63.0%), Persephone (59.0%), Argagarg (57.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (54.4%), Quince (54.1%), DeGrey (53.1%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (53.5%), Quince (53.0%), DeGrey (52.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (52.5%), Quince (52.4%), Setsuki (51.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (32.8%), DeGrey (32.3%), Quince (32.2%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (29.3%), Argagarg (29.3%), Setsuki (28.0%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (22.4%), Troq (21.1%), Setsuki (20.9%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (14.9%), Argagarg (14.2%), Setsuki (13.9%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (9.0%), Troq (8.2%), Setsuki (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (3.6%), Troq (3.2%), Setsuki (3.0%)
Gwen counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (99.5%), Lum (99.3%), Onimaru (99.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (98.0%), Lum (97.5%), Onimaru (97.3%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (92.9%), Lum (91.5%), Grave (91.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (92.7%), Lum (90.8%), Onimaru (90.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (83.3%), Lum (80.3%), Grave (80.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (77.2%), Setsuki (74.8%), Zane (74.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (73.0%), Lum (66.0%), Onimaru (63.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (63.3%), Grave (57.9%), Lum (57.7%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (59.0%), Grave (56.1%), Setsuki (55.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (57.7%), Grave (55.1%), Setsuki (54.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (37.0%), Grave (34.6%), Setsuki (34.5%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (34.2%), Grave (31.8%), Setsuki (30.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (28.5%), Setsuki (22.8%), Grave (22.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (16.8%), Grave (15.9%), Setsuki (15.1%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (11.1%), Setsuki (8.7%), Grave (8.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (4.3%), Setsuki (3.3%), DeGrey (3.1%)
Jaina counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (99.9%), Zane (99.9%), Argagarg (99.9%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (99.6%), Zane (99.3%), Argagarg (99.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (97.4%), Zane (95.4%), Argagarg (95.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (95.7%), Argagarg (94.3%), Zane (94.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (88.9%), Argagarg (85.3%), Zane (84.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (84.0%), Zane (71.0%), Argagarg (69.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (82.2%), Argagarg (79.9%), Zane (79.3%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (71.3%), Argagarg (64.4%), Zane (62.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (65.9%), Argagarg (62.2%), Zane (60.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (63.1%), Argagarg (59.7%), Zane (59.0%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (42.5%), Argagarg (38.4%), Zane (37.8%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (40.8%), Argagarg (34.8%), Zane (33.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (32.8%), Zane (24.8%), Argagarg (23.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (21.0%), Argagarg (16.9%), Rook (16.4%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (12.8%), DeGrey (9.1%), Rook (8.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (5.0%), DeGrey (3.6%), Rook (3.3%)
Lum counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (99.0%), DeGrey (99.0%), Menelker (98.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (96.7%), DeGrey (96.7%), Menelker (95.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (92.1%), DeGrey (92.0%), Menelker (90.6%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (89.8%), DeGrey (89.8%), Menelker (87.2%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (82.2%), DeGrey (82.0%), Menelker (78.9%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (77.8%), DeGrey (76.8%), Menelker (74.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (68.0%), DeGrey (68.0%), Menelker (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (62.1%), DeGrey (61.2%), Menelker (55.7%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (59.8%), DeGrey (58.6%), Menelker (54.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (57.7%), DeGrey (56.9%), Geiger (53.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (37.1%), DeGrey (36.9%), Geiger (33.5%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (34.3%), Argagarg (33.9%), Geiger (30.3%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (27.2%), Argagarg (23.1%), Geiger (21.5%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (17.6%), Argagarg (16.5%), Geiger (15.2%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.9%), Geiger (8.4%), Argagarg (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.4%), Geiger (3.3%), Troq (2.7%)
Menelker counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Zane (99.2%), Troq (99.1%), Onimaru (99.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Zane (97.3%), Troq (96.8%), Onimaru (96.7%)
  • 2-4 -> Zane (91.6%), Troq (91.0%), DeGrey (90.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Zane (91.0%), Troq (89.5%), Onimaru (88.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Zane (81.0%), Troq (79.9%), DeGrey (78.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Zane (76.6%), Troq (74.8%), DeGrey (73.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Zane (70.0%), Troq (65.0%), Onimaru (63.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Zane (59.9%), Troq (58.4%), Rook (56.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Zane (57.8%), Troq (55.6%), DeGrey (54.4%)
  • 4-4 -> Zane (56.8%), Troq (55.0%), Rook (54.0%)
  • 4-3 -> Zane (36.0%), Troq (34.4%), DeGrey (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Zane (32.1%), Troq (31.2%), DeGrey (30.8%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (25.4%), Zane (24.5%), DeGrey (23.6%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (15.6%), Zane (15.6%), Rook (15.4%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (9.9%), DeGrey (9.4%), Zane (8.6%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (3.9%), DeGrey (3.8%), Rook (3.2%)
Midori counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.1%), Argagarg (98.1%), Geiger (98.1%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (94.9%), Argagarg (94.8%), Geiger (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (90.3%), Argagarg (90.1%), BBB (89.7%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (86.3%), Argagarg (85.9%), Geiger (85.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (79.2%), Argagarg (78.8%), BBB (77.8%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (75.0%), Geiger (74.4%), Valerie (73.3%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (63.0%), Argagarg (62.0%), Geiger (62.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (58.0%), Argagarg (57.9%), Valerie (55.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (56.7%), Geiger (56.0%), Valerie (54.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (55.1%), Geiger (54.9%), Valerie (53.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (35.1%), Argagarg (34.9%), Valerie (33.5%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (32.2%), Argagarg (31.3%), Valerie (29.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (24.2%), Troq (22.2%), Setsuki (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.3%), Argagarg (15.2%), Valerie (14.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (9.4%), Troq (8.7%), Setsuki (8.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.7%), Troq (3.4%), Setsuki (3.1%)
Onimaru counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (99.7%), DeGrey (99.6%), Argagarg (99.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (98.8%), DeGrey (98.4%), Argagarg (98.1%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (94.7%), DeGrey (93.1%), Argagarg (92.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (92.7%), DeGrey (92.5%), Argagarg (91.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (83.0%), DeGrey (82.7%), Argagarg (81.4%)
  • 3-4 -> DeGrey (77.3%), Lum (77.2%), Argagarg (76.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (77.0%), DeGrey (70.0%), Argagarg (65.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Lum (62.5%), DeGrey (62.4%), Argagarg (60.9%)
  • 3-3 -> DeGrey (59.5%), Argagarg (58.9%), Lum (58.6%)
  • 4-4 -> DeGrey (57.6%), Lum (57.1%), Argagarg (57.0%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (37.6%), Argagarg (36.4%), Lum (35.1%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (35.1%), Argagarg (33.0%), Lum (31.7%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (28.0%), Lum (24.6%), Argagarg (22.1%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (18.0%), Argagarg (16.0%), Geiger (15.4%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (11.2%), Geiger (8.5%), Lum (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.5%), Geiger (3.3%), Rook (2.8%)
Persephone counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (99.5%), Zane (99.4%), Setsuki (99.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (98.0%), Zane (97.8%), Setsuki (97.7%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (92.7%), Zane (91.9%), Setsuki (91.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (91.8%), Zane (91.7%), Setsuki (91.7%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (81.4%), Setsuki (81.2%), Zane (81.2%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (77.0%), Zane (76.9%), Lum (76.0%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (73.0%), Zane (70.0%), Setsuki (69.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Setsuki (60.4%), Lum (60.2%), Zane (60.1%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (58.5%), Zane (58.1%), Lum (56.9%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (57.6%), Zane (57.1%), Valerie (56.2%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (37.1%), Zane (36.3%), Valerie (35.5%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (33.1%), Zane (32.1%), Valerie (32.1%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (26.2%), Zane (24.5%), Lum (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (16.6%), Valerie (15.7%), Zane (15.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.0%), DeGrey (8.8%), Zane (8.6%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.8%), DeGrey (3.5%), Troq (3.2%)
Quince counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (99.2%), Jaina (99.1%), BBB (99.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (97.3%), Jaina (97.1%), BBB (96.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (92.1%), Geiger (91.2%), Jaina (90.8%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (91.0%), Jaina (90.4%), BBB (88.6%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (82.0%), Geiger (80.2%), Jaina (79.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (76.1%), Geiger (74.5%), Zane (73.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (70.0%), Jaina (68.0%), BBB (62.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (61.5%), Geiger (58.6%), Zane (55.7%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (57.7%), Geiger (56.0%), Zane (54.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (56.5%), Geiger (54.9%), Zane (53.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (36.0%), Geiger (34.8%), Zane (33.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (33.1%), Geiger (32.3%), Rook (29.8%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (27.3%), Geiger (23.8%), Zane (21.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.3%), Troq (16.2%), Rook (14.9%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (10.6%), Geiger (9.3%), Rook (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (4.2%), Geiger (3.6%), Rook (3.0%)
Rook counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gloria (97.9%), BBB (97.8%), Argagarg (97.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Gloria (94.5%), BBB (94.2%), Argagarg (93.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Gloria (88.4%), Argagarg (88.1%), BBB (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Gloria (85.6%), BBB (84.8%), Argagarg (84.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Gloria (76.2%), Argagarg (76.1%), BBB (75.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (72.7%), Gloria (71.5%), Setsuki (71.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Gloria (62.0%), BBB (60.0%), Argagarg (58.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (54.6%), Gloria (53.5%), Geiger (52.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (54.0%), Geiger (52.1%), Setsuki (51.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (53.0%), Geiger (51.7%), Setsuki (51.6%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (33.0%), Geiger (32.2%), Setsuki (32.0%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (29.5%), Geiger (29.1%), Grave (27.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (21.5%), Setsuki (20.9%), Troq (19.9%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (14.7%), Argagarg (14.3%), Grave (13.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (8.4%), Setsuki (7.9%), DeGrey (7.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.3%), DeGrey (3.1%), Troq (3.0%)
Setsuki counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (97.9%), Lum (97.8%), Zane (97.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (94.5%), Lum (94.1%), Zane (93.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (89.3%), Lum (88.3%), Zane (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (85.6%), Lum (84.4%), Zane (83.3%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (77.7%), Lum (75.7%), Zane (75.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (72.5%), Zane (71.1%), Lum (70.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (62.0%), Lum (59.0%), Zane (56.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (56.4%), Lum (52.9%), Geiger (52.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (53.7%), Zane (51.7%), Geiger (51.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (53.1%), Zane (51.4%), Geiger (50.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (33.2%), Zane (31.5%), Geiger (31.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (30.1%), Geiger (28.5%), Zane (27.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (24.2%), Geiger (20.3%), Zane (19.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (14.7%), Geiger (14.3%), Zane (13.1%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (9.4%), Geiger (7.9%), Setsuki (7.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (3.7%), Geiger (3.1%), Setsuki (2.7%)
Troq counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (97.7%), Jaina (97.7%), BBB (97.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (94.1%), Jaina (94.1%), BBB (93.3%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (89.8%), Jaina (88.6%), Vendetta (88.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (84.8%), Jaina (84.8%), BBB (82.8%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (78.6%), Vendetta (75.7%), Jaina (75.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (73.7%), Vendetta (70.8%), BBB (70.4%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (61.0%), Jaina (61.0%), BBB (56.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (57.3%), Vendetta (52.3%), BBB (51.4%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (55.5%), Vendetta (51.0%), Rook (50.8%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (54.4%), Rook (50.5%), Vendetta (50.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (34.7%), Rook (30.7%), Troq (30.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (31.8%), Rook (27.0%), Troq (26.0%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (23.8%), Troq (19.5%), Rook (18.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.1%), Rook (13.5%), Grave (12.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (9.3%), Troq (7.6%), DeGrey (7.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.6%), Troq (3.0%), DeGrey (2.9%)
Valerie counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Jaina (98.8%), Lum (98.6%), BBB (98.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Jaina (96.4%), Lum (95.9%), BBB (95.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (89.9%), Jaina (89.6%), DeGrey (89.6%)
  • 1-2 -> Jaina (89.1%), Lum (87.5%), BBB (87.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (78.7%), DeGrey (78.1%), Troq (77.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (73.7%), DeGrey (73.4%), Setsuki (72.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Jaina (67.0%), Lum (62.0%), BBB (61.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (57.5%), DeGrey (56.6%), Troq (55.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (55.6%), DeGrey (55.1%), Setsuki (54.0%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (54.4%), DeGrey (53.9%), Setsuki (53.3%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (34.7%), DeGrey (34.4%), Setsuki (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (31.9%), DeGrey (31.5%), Rook (29.7%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (24.4%), Geiger (23.8%), Troq (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.2%), DeGrey (16.0%), Rook (15.0%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (9.8%), Geiger (9.3%), Troq (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (3.9%), Geiger (3.6%), Troq (3.6%)
Vendetta counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Valerie (99.3%), Zane (99.1%), Onimaru (99.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Valerie (97.6%), Zane (96.9%), Onimaru (96.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (91.9%), Zane (90.8%), Argagarg (90.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Valerie (91.6%), Zane (89.3%), Onimaru (89.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (81.6%), Zane (79.1%), Argagarg (78.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (76.3%), Zane (74.8%), Argagarg (74.3%)
  • 1-1 -> Valerie (71.0%), Zane (63.0%), Onimaru (62.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (60.5%), Zane (55.7%), Argagarg (55.4%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (57.8%), Zane (55.4%), Argagarg (55.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (56.8%), Zane (54.8%), Argagarg (54.3%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (36.2%), Zane (34.1%), Setsuki (33.9%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (32.7%), Grave (30.0%), Argagarg (29.5%)
  • 2-1 -> Valerie (23.4%), Setsuki (22.4%), Zane (22.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Valerie (16.1%), Grave (15.0%), Setsuki (14.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (8.5%), Grave (7.9%), Rook (7.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.2%), Geiger (3.0%), Rook (3.0%)
Zane counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (98.5%), Rook (98.2%), Midori (98.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (95.7%), Rook (94.7%), Midori (94.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (90.4%), Rook (89.3%), Midori (88.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (87.8%), Rook (85.0%), Midori (83.6%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (79.4%), Rook (77.3%), Midori (75.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (73.9%), Rook (72.4%), Midori (70.4%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (65.0%), Rook (57.0%), Midori (53.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (58.4%), Rook (55.7%), Midori (52.1%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (55.3%), Rook (53.6%), Midori (50.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (54.4%), Rook (52.9%), Midori (50.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (34.3%), Rook (32.8%), Midori (30.1%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (31.2%), Rook (30.1%), Midori (26.9%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (25.4%), Rook (21.7%), Midori (19.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (15.3%), Rook (15.2%), Midori (12.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (9.9%), Rook (8.2%), Midori (7.3%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (3.9%), Rook (3.1%), DeGrey (2.9%)

EDIT: Display the top 3 counterpicks, and sort the counterpicks by win-percentage, and moved Composite counterpicks to a separate post to work around character limits.

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Wow, nice job ! :open_mouth:
How did you calculate this ? Did you anticipated that your opponent could counterpick your counterpick ?

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Rook is a good pick vs the carousel? Hmmm, where have we heard that before… :wink:

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Yeah, the opponent counterpicking the counterpick is built in. Basically, at each step, you look for the best character, taking into account the chance that you’ll win the next round, and also what the opponent will pick in response, assuming the pick optimally (and also what you’ll do next if you lose, and have to counterpick again).

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Moar data!

Composite counterpicks, 20XX Meta

Argagarg counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gloria (98.5%), Troq (98.4%), Persephone (98.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Gloria (95.7%), Troq (95.4%), Persephone (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (89.3%), Gloria (89.3%), Zane (88.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Gloria (87.8%), Troq (86.9%), Persephone (85.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Gloria (78.0%), Troq (77.9%), Zane (76.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (73.1%), Gloria (73.1%), Persephone (71.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Gloria (65.0%), Troq (62.5%), Persephone (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Gloria (57.2%), Troq (56.9%), Persephone (53.8%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (55.1%), Gloria (55.0%), Persephone (53.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (54.3%), Gloria (54.1%), Persephone (52.7%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (35.2%), Gloria (35.0%), Persephone (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (31.9%), Gloria (31.8%), Persephone (29.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (25.0%), Gloria (24.4%), DeGrey (22.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (16.7%), Gloria (16.1%), DeGrey (15.4%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (10.0%), DeGrey (9.5%), Setsuki (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.0%), Setsuki (4.0%), Valerie (4.0%)
BBB counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), Gloria (97.4%), Grave (97.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), Gloria (93.6%), Grave (93.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (88.2%), Grave (88.1%), Valerie (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), Gloria (84.0%), Grave (84.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Grave (76.5%), Argagarg (76.5%), Valerie (76.2%)
  • 3-4 -> Grave (72.2%), Valerie (71.8%), Argagarg (71.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), Gloria (60.0%), Grave (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Grave (56.2%), Valerie (55.5%), Argagarg (55.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Grave (54.5%), Valerie (53.8%), Setsuki (53.8%)
  • 4-4 -> Grave (53.9%), Setsuki (53.3%), Valerie (53.2%)
  • 4-3 -> Grave (35.0%), Valerie (34.6%), Setsuki (34.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (31.7%), Valerie (31.7%), Setsuki (31.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Valerie (25.5%), Setsuki (24.4%), Grave (24.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Valerie (16.9%), Setsuki (16.5%), Grave (16.4%)
  • 3-1 -> Valerie (10.8%), Setsuki (10.4%), DeGrey (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Valerie (4.6%), Setsuki (4.4%), DeGrey (4.2%)
DeGrey counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Zane (96.7%), Persephone (96.5%), Setsuki (96.5%)
  • 1-3 -> Zane (92.3%), Persephone (91.9%), Setsuki (91.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Zane (86.8%), Setsuki (86.3%), Troq (86.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Zane (81.9%), Persephone (80.9%), Setsuki (80.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Zane (74.3%), Setsuki (73.8%), Troq (73.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Zane (70.1%), Setsuki (69.9%), Troq (69.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Zane (57.5%), Persephone (55.0%), Setsuki (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Zane (53.1%), Setsuki (52.9%), Troq (52.3%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (52.1%), Zane (51.9%), Troq (51.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (51.7%), Zane (51.4%), Troq (51.2%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (33.3%), Troq (32.6%), Zane (32.5%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (30.1%), Troq (29.3%), Zane (29.0%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (23.4%), Troq (22.0%), Zane (21.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (15.8%), Troq (15.2%), DeGrey (15.0%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.9%), DeGrey (9.0%), Troq (8.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.2%), DeGrey (3.8%), Troq (3.5%)
Geiger counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Persephone (97.4%), Menelker (97.3%), Gloria (97.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Persephone (93.6%), Menelker (93.2%), Gloria (92.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Persephone (87.6%), Menelker (87.2%), Setsuki (86.9%)
  • 1-2 -> Persephone (84.0%), Menelker (83.0%), Gloria (82.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Persephone (75.7%), Menelker (75.1%), Setsuki (74.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Persephone (71.6%), Menelker (71.1%), Setsuki (70.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Persephone (60.0%), Menelker (57.5%), Gloria (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Persephone (54.8%), Menelker (54.4%), Setsuki (53.3%)
  • 3-3 -> Persephone (53.7%), Menelker (53.3%), Setsuki (52.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Persephone (53.1%), Menelker (52.8%), Setsuki (52.1%)
  • 4-3 -> Menelker (34.2%), Persephone (34.2%), Setsuki (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Menelker (31.1%), Persephone (30.6%), Setsuki (30.3%)
  • 2-1 -> Menelker (24.4%), Setsuki (23.4%), Persephone (22.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Menelker (16.4%), Setsuki (15.9%), Persephone (15.7%)
  • 3-1 -> Menelker (10.4%), Setsuki (9.9%), DeGrey (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (4.4%), Setsuki (4.2%), DeGrey (4.0%)
Gloria counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Zane (98.0%), DeGrey (97.9%), Setsuki (97.9%)
  • 1-3 -> Zane (94.7%), DeGrey (94.4%), Setsuki (94.4%)
  • 2-4 -> Zane (89.0%), Setsuki (88.7%), DeGrey (88.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Zane (85.9%), DeGrey (85.0%), Setsuki (85.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Zane (77.4%), Setsuki (77.1%), DeGrey (76.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Zane (72.8%), Setsuki (72.7%), DeGrey (72.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Zane (62.5%), DeGrey (60.0%), Setsuki (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Zane (56.4%), Setsuki (56.4%), DeGrey (56.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (55.1%), DeGrey (55.0%), Zane (54.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (54.3%), DeGrey (54.3%), Zane (53.9%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (35.6%), Setsuki (35.5%), Zane (34.5%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (32.5%), Setsuki (32.2%), Zane (31.0%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (25.5%), Setsuki (25.5%), Zane (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (17.3%), Setsuki (17.0%), Troq (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.8%), Setsuki (10.8%), Menelker (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.6%), Setsuki (4.6%), Menelker (4.0%)
Grave counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), DeGrey (97.1%), Quince (97.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), DeGrey (92.8%), Quince (92.4%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (87.9%), DeGrey (86.8%), Quince (86.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), DeGrey (82.0%), Quince (81.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (75.7%), DeGrey (74.0%), Quince (72.9%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (71.2%), DeGrey (70.1%), Quince (68.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), DeGrey (55.0%), Quince (52.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (54.4%), DeGrey (52.7%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (53.0%), DeGrey (52.1%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (52.3%), DeGrey (51.8%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (33.5%), Argagarg (33.3%), Menelker (31.7%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (30.3%), Argagarg (29.7%), Menelker (28.2%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (23.4%), Menelker (21.3%), Argagarg (21.0%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (16.0%), Argagarg (14.9%), Menelker (14.7%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (9.9%), Menelker (9.0%), Setsuki (8.1%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.2%), Menelker (3.8%), Setsuki (3.5%)
Gwen counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> DeGrey (97.4%), Valerie (97.4%), Argagarg (97.3%)
  • 1-3 -> DeGrey (93.6%), Valerie (93.6%), Argagarg (93.2%)
  • 2-4 -> DeGrey (88.1%), Valerie (88.0%), Argagarg (87.7%)
  • 1-2 -> DeGrey (84.0%), Valerie (84.0%), Argagarg (83.0%)
  • 2-3 -> DeGrey (76.5%), Valerie (76.2%), Grave (75.7%)
  • 3-4 -> DeGrey (72.5%), Valerie (72.0%), Grave (71.6%)
  • 1-1 -> DeGrey (60.0%), Valerie (60.0%), Argagarg (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> DeGrey (56.2%), Valerie (55.5%), Grave (54.9%)
  • 3-3 -> DeGrey (55.0%), Valerie (54.2%), Grave (53.9%)
  • 4-4 -> DeGrey (54.3%), Valerie (53.5%), Grave (53.4%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (35.6%), Valerie (34.8%), Grave (34.4%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (32.5%), Valerie (31.7%), Grave (30.9%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (25.5%), Valerie (25.5%), Grave (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (17.3%), Valerie (16.9%), Grave (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.8%), Valerie (10.8%), Setsuki (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.6%), Valerie (4.6%), Setsuki (4.0%)
Jaina counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), Setsuki (97.4%), Geiger (97.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), Setsuki (93.6%), Geiger (93.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Setsuki (88.5%), Argagarg (88.4%), Grave (87.8%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), Setsuki (84.0%), Geiger (83.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Setsuki (77.0%), Argagarg (76.6%), Grave (75.8%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (72.7%), Argagarg (72.0%), Grave (71.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), Setsuki (60.0%), Geiger (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Setsuki (56.4%), Argagarg (55.2%), Grave (54.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (55.0%), Grave (53.8%), Argagarg (53.8%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (54.2%), Grave (53.3%), Argagarg (53.1%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (35.4%), Grave (34.3%), DeGrey (34.0%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (32.2%), Grave (30.9%), DeGrey (30.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (25.5%), DeGrey (23.4%), Menelker (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (17.0%), DeGrey (16.2%), Menelker (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.8%), DeGrey (9.9%), Menelker (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.6%), DeGrey (4.2%), Menelker (4.2%)
Lum counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (98.5%), DeGrey (98.3%), Grave (98.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (95.7%), DeGrey (95.1%), Grave (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (89.9%), DeGrey (88.9%), Grave (88.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (87.8%), DeGrey (86.0%), Grave (85.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (78.7%), DeGrey (77.1%), Grave (76.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (73.6%), DeGrey (72.8%), Grave (71.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (65.0%), DeGrey (60.0%), Grave (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (57.7%), DeGrey (56.2%), Grave (54.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (55.6%), DeGrey (55.0%), Grave (53.9%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (54.6%), DeGrey (54.3%), Grave (53.4%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (35.6%), Argagarg (35.2%), Grave (34.4%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (32.5%), Argagarg (31.6%), Grave (30.9%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (25.5%), Menelker (23.4%), Grave (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (17.3%), Menelker (15.9%), Argagarg (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.8%), Menelker (9.9%), Grave (9.2%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.6%), Menelker (4.2%), Grave (3.7%)
Menelker counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (96.7%), Zane (96.7%), DeGrey (96.5%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (92.3%), Zane (92.3%), DeGrey (91.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (87.1%), Zane (87.0%), Setsuki (86.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (81.9%), Zane (81.9%), DeGrey (80.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (74.8%), Zane (74.5%), Setsuki (74.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (70.6%), Zane (70.3%), Setsuki (70.1%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (57.5%), Zane (57.5%), DeGrey (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (53.6%), Zane (53.1%), Setsuki (52.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (52.6%), Setsuki (52.2%), DeGrey (52.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (52.1%), Setsuki (51.8%), DeGrey (51.8%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (33.5%), Setsuki (33.4%), Troq (33.4%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (30.3%), Troq (30.1%), Setsuki (30.1%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (23.4%), Setsuki (23.4%), Valerie (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (16.0%), Setsuki (15.8%), Troq (15.7%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (9.9%), Setsuki (9.9%), Valerie (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.2%), Setsuki (4.2%), Valerie (4.2%)
Midori counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.5%), Geiger (98.5%), DeGrey (98.3%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (95.7%), Geiger (95.7%), DeGrey (95.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (89.6%), BBB (89.5%), DeGrey (88.9%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (87.8%), Geiger (87.8%), DeGrey (86.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (78.6%), BBB (78.3%), DeGrey (77.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (74.1%), BBB (73.8%), DeGrey (73.1%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (65.0%), Geiger (65.0%), DeGrey (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (58.2%), BBB (57.5%), DeGrey (56.4%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (56.4%), BBB (56.0%), DeGrey (55.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (55.4%), BBB (54.9%), DeGrey (54.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (36.2%), DeGrey (35.7%), BBB (35.7%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (33.2%), DeGrey (32.5%), BBB (32.3%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (26.0%), Geiger (26.0%), DeGrey (25.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (17.4%), DeGrey (17.3%), BBB (16.9%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.8%), BBB (10.4%), Geiger (10.4%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.6%), BBB (4.2%), Geiger (4.2%)
Onimaru counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (98.5%), DeGrey (98.5%), Lum (98.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (95.7%), DeGrey (95.7%), Lum (94.5%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (90.2%), DeGrey (90.0%), Persephone (88.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (87.8%), DeGrey (87.8%), Lum (84.2%)
  • 2-3 -> DeGrey (79.4%), Argagarg (79.3%), Persephone (76.1%)
  • 3-4 -> DeGrey (74.9%), Argagarg (74.3%), Persephone (71.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (65.0%), DeGrey (65.0%), Lum (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> DeGrey (59.5%), Argagarg (58.4%), Persephone (53.7%)
  • 3-3 -> DeGrey (57.6%), Argagarg (56.4%), Persephone (53.4%)
  • 4-4 -> DeGrey (56.5%), Argagarg (55.3%), Persephone (53.0%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (37.6%), Argagarg (35.6%), Persephone (33.6%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (34.6%), Argagarg (31.9%), Grave (29.5%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (27.6%), Argagarg (22.7%), Grave (21.0%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (18.5%), Argagarg (16.1%), Grave (15.1%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (11.7%), Menelker (8.6%), Grave (8.4%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (5.0%), Menelker (3.6%), Setsuki (3.5%)
Persephone counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gwen (98.0%), BBB (97.9%), Zane (97.9%)
  • 1-3 -> Gwen (94.7%), BBB (94.4%), Zane (94.4%)
  • 2-4 -> Gwen (88.4%), Zane (88.3%), BBB (87.9%)
  • 1-2 -> Gwen (85.9%), BBB (85.0%), Zane (85.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Gwen (76.7%), Zane (76.4%), Setsuki (76.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Gwen (71.9%), Zane (71.6%), Setsuki (71.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Gwen (62.5%), BBB (60.0%), Zane (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Gwen (55.9%), Zane (55.0%), Setsuki (54.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Gwen (53.9%), Setsuki (53.6%), BBB (53.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Gwen (53.1%), Setsuki (53.0%), BBB (52.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (34.4%), Gwen (34.3%), BBB (33.9%)
  • 3-2 -> Gwen (31.3%), Setsuki (31.2%), Valerie (30.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Gwen (25.0%), Setsuki (24.4%), Valerie (24.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (16.4%), Gwen (16.3%), Valerie (16.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.4%), Valerie (10.4%), Gwen (10.0%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.4%), Valerie (4.4%), Menelker (4.2%)
Quince counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (98.5%), BBB (98.2%), Valerie (98.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (95.7%), BBB (94.8%), Valerie (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (89.6%), Zane (88.6%), Valerie (88.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (87.8%), BBB (85.1%), Valerie (85.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (78.6%), Zane (76.5%), Valerie (76.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (74.1%), Valerie (71.9%), Zane (71.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (65.0%), BBB (57.5%), Valerie (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (58.2%), Valerie (54.5%), Zane (54.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (56.4%), Valerie (53.5%), BBB (53.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (55.4%), Valerie (53.0%), Menelker (52.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (36.2%), Valerie (34.1%), Menelker (33.9%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (33.0%), Valerie (30.6%), Menelker (30.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (26.0%), Valerie (24.4%), Menelker (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (17.4%), Valerie (16.3%), Menelker (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (10.4%), Valerie (10.4%), Menelker (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Valerie (4.4%), Menelker (4.2%), Geiger (4.2%)
Rook counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.0%), Geiger (97.9%), Lum (97.9%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (94.7%), Geiger (94.4%), Lum (94.4%)
  • 2-4 -> BBB (88.4%), Geiger (88.0%), Lum (87.9%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (85.9%), Geiger (85.0%), Lum (85.0%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (76.7%), Geiger (76.1%), Lum (75.9%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (72.3%), Geiger (71.9%), Lum (71.4%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (62.5%), Geiger (60.0%), Lum (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (55.9%), Geiger (55.3%), Lum (54.7%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (54.3%), Geiger (53.8%), Lum (53.0%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (53.6%), Geiger (53.3%), Lum (52.4%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (34.5%), Geiger (34.3%), Lum (33.1%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.1%), Geiger (31.1%), Valerie (29.6%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (25.0%), Geiger (24.0%), Valerie (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.3%), BBB (16.3%), Valerie (15.7%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (10.0%), Valerie (9.9%), Geiger (9.6%)
  • 4-1 -> Valerie (4.2%), DeGrey (4.0%), Setsuki (4.0%)
Setsuki counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (96.7%), Grave (96.5%), Lum (96.5%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (92.3%), Grave (91.9%), Lum (91.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (87.0%), Grave (86.3%), Lum (86.1%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (81.9%), Grave (80.9%), Lum (80.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (74.7%), Grave (73.6%), Lum (73.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (70.5%), Grave (69.7%), Lum (69.1%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (57.5%), Grave (55.0%), Lum (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (53.5%), Grave (52.5%), Lum (51.3%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (52.4%), Grave (51.8%), Lum (50.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (51.9%), Grave (51.5%), Lum (50.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (33.2%), Grave (32.9%), Setsuki (31.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (29.8%), Grave (29.2%), Setsuki (27.9%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (23.0%), Grave (22.0%), Setsuki (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (15.6%), Grave (15.1%), Setsuki (14.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (9.2%), Setsuki (9.0%), Valerie (9.0%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.8%), Valerie (3.8%), Troq (3.7%)
Troq counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Geiger (97.4%), Lum (97.4%), BBB (97.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Geiger (93.6%), Lum (93.6%), BBB (93.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Geiger (87.6%), Lum (87.5%), BBB (87.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Geiger (84.0%), Lum (84.0%), BBB (83.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Geiger (75.7%), Lum (75.5%), BBB (74.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Geiger (71.7%), Lum (71.1%), BBB (70.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Geiger (60.0%), Lum (60.0%), BBB (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Geiger (54.9%), Lum (54.3%), BBB (53.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Geiger (53.7%), Lum (52.9%), BBB (52.4%)
  • 4-4 -> Geiger (53.2%), Lum (52.3%), BBB (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Geiger (34.3%), Lum (33.1%), BBB (33.0%)
  • 3-2 -> Geiger (31.0%), BBB (29.3%), Lum (29.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Geiger (24.0%), BBB (23.0%), Jaina (21.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Geiger (16.1%), BBB (15.1%), Lum (14.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Geiger (9.6%), BBB (9.2%), Jaina (8.4%)
  • 4-1 -> Geiger (3.8%), BBB (3.7%), DeGrey (3.5%)
Valerie counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> DeGrey (96.7%), Grave (96.7%), Onimaru (96.7%)
  • 1-3 -> DeGrey (92.3%), Grave (92.3%), Onimaru (92.3%)
  • 2-4 -> DeGrey (86.9%), Grave (86.9%), Troq (86.6%)
  • 1-2 -> DeGrey (81.9%), Grave (81.9%), Onimaru (81.9%)
  • 2-3 -> DeGrey (74.9%), Grave (74.9%), Troq (74.2%)
  • 3-4 -> DeGrey (71.2%), Grave (71.0%), Troq (70.2%)
  • 1-1 -> DeGrey (57.5%), Grave (57.5%), Onimaru (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> DeGrey (54.4%), Grave (54.4%), Troq (52.8%)
  • 3-3 -> DeGrey (53.6%), Grave (53.4%), Troq (52.1%)
  • 4-4 -> DeGrey (53.1%), Grave (52.9%), Troq (51.7%)
  • 4-3 -> DeGrey (34.6%), Grave (34.1%), Troq (32.9%)
  • 3-2 -> DeGrey (31.4%), Grave (30.7%), Troq (29.5%)
  • 2-1 -> DeGrey (24.4%), Grave (23.0%), Troq (22.0%)
  • 4-2 -> DeGrey (16.7%), Grave (15.8%), Troq (15.3%)
  • 3-1 -> DeGrey (10.4%), Grave (9.2%), Setsuki (9.0%)
  • 4-1 -> DeGrey (4.4%), Setsuki (3.8%), Valerie (3.8%)
Vendetta counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (98.0%), Valerie (98.0%), Grave (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (94.7%), Valerie (94.7%), Grave (94.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (88.8%), Lum (88.7%), Grave (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (85.9%), Valerie (85.9%), Grave (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (77.5%), Lum (77.2%), Grave (76.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (72.8%), Lum (72.4%), Grave (71.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (62.5%), Valerie (62.5%), Grave (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (57.2%), Lum (56.5%), Grave (55.3%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (55.1%), Lum (54.5%), Grave (54.0%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (54.2%), Lum (53.6%), Grave (53.3%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (35.6%), Grave (34.5%), Lum (34.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (32.7%), Grave (31.0%), Lum (30.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Valerie (26.6%), Setsuki (23.4%), Grave (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Valerie (17.5%), Setsuki (16.1%), Grave (16.0%)
  • 3-1 -> Valerie (11.3%), Setsuki (9.9%), DeGrey (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Valerie (4.8%), Setsuki (4.2%), DeGrey (4.0%)
Zane counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Troq (98.0%), Onimaru (97.8%), Grave (97.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Troq (94.7%), Onimaru (94.0%), Grave (93.7%)
  • 2-4 -> Troq (89.3%), Onimaru (87.7%), Grave (87.7%)
  • 1-2 -> Troq (85.9%), Onimaru (84.1%), Grave (83.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Troq (77.8%), Grave (75.1%), Rook (75.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Troq (73.1%), Grave (71.0%), Rook (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Troq (62.5%), Onimaru (57.5%), Grave (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Troq (56.9%), Grave (53.4%), Rook (52.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Troq (55.1%), Grave (52.7%), Rook (52.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Troq (54.3%), Grave (52.4%), Rook (51.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Troq (35.2%), Grave (33.4%), Rook (32.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Troq (31.9%), Grave (29.6%), Rook (28.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Troq (25.0%), Grave (22.0%), Valerie (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Troq (16.7%), Grave (15.1%), Rook (14.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Troq (10.0%), Valerie (9.0%), Grave (8.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Troq (4.0%), Valerie (3.8%), Setsuki (3.6%)
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Historical counterpicks, 19XX Meta

Argagarg counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Quince (98.7%), Gloria (98.3%), BBB (98.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Quince (96.1%), Gloria (95.1%), BBB (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Quince (90.2%), Gloria (88.7%), Setsuki (88.6%)
  • 1-2 -> Quince (88.4%), Gloria (85.7%), BBB (84.7%)
  • 2-3 -> Quince (78.9%), Setsuki (76.2%), Gloria (76.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Quince (74.2%), Setsuki (72.4%), BBB (71.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Quince (66.0%), Gloria (58.0%), BBB (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Quince (57.3%), Setsuki (53.9%), BBB (52.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Quince (55.3%), Setsuki (53.3%), BBB (51.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Quince (54.9%), Setsuki (53.3%), BBB (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Quince (34.1%), Setsuki (33.3%), BBB (31.8%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (29.6%), Quince (29.6%), BBB (28.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (22.5%), BBB (22.0%), Quince (21.1%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (14.8%), BBB (14.6%), Quince (14.0%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.2%), BBB (8.8%), Quince (6.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.8%), BBB (3.5%), Rook (2.3%)
BBB counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Grave (97.4%), Lum (97.2%), Menelker (97.2%)
  • 1-3 -> Grave (93.6%), Lum (93.0%), Menelker (93.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Grave (88.4%), Lum (88.0%), Menelker (87.8%)
  • 1-2 -> Grave (84.0%), Lum (82.4%), Menelker (82.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Grave (76.6%), Lum (75.8%), Menelker (75.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Grave (72.9%), Menelker (71.6%), Setsuki (71.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Grave (60.0%), Lum (56.0%), Menelker (56.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Grave (55.4%), Menelker (53.4%), Setsuki (53.1%)
  • 3-3 -> Grave (54.3%), Setsuki (53.1%), Menelker (53.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Grave (53.4%), Setsuki (52.7%), Menelker (52.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Grave (33.5%), Setsuki (33.1%), Menelker (32.9%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (30.2%), Setsuki (29.1%), Menelker (28.8%)
  • 2-1 -> Grave (22.2%), Setsuki (22.1%), Menelker (20.7%)
  • 4-2 -> Grave (15.1%), Setsuki (14.6%), Menelker (13.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.1%), Grave (8.2%), BBB (8.0%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.7%), BBB (3.2%), Grave (3.0%)
Gloria counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Midori (98.8%), BBB (98.7%), Gwen (98.5%)
  • 1-3 -> Midori (96.4%), BBB (96.2%), Gwen (95.3%)
  • 2-4 -> Midori (90.7%), BBB (90.6%), Gwen (89.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Midori (89.1%), BBB (88.4%), Gwen (85.8%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (80.0%), Midori (79.9%), Gwen (76.9%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (75.1%), Midori (74.9%), Gwen (72.3%)
  • 1-1 -> Midori (67.0%), BBB (65.0%), Gwen (57.0%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (59.7%), Midori (58.7%), Gwen (54.2%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (56.8%), Midori (56.4%), Gwen (52.9%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (55.6%), Midori (55.4%), Gwen (52.1%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (35.5%), Midori (35.1%), Gwen (32.1%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (32.7%), Midori (31.3%), Gwen (27.8%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (26.0%), Midori (24.8%), Gwen (19.4%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (16.7%), Midori (15.5%), Setsuki (13.4%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (10.4%), Midori (9.2%), Setsuki (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> BBB (4.2%), Midori (3.4%), Setsuki (3.2%)
Grave counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Quince (98.1%), Persephone (97.9%), Argagarg (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Quince (94.9%), Persephone (94.4%), Argagarg (94.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Quince (89.1%), Lum (88.3%), Argagarg (88.1%)
  • 1-2 -> Quince (86.3%), Persephone (84.8%), Argagarg (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Quince (77.4%), Lum (75.9%), Argagarg (75.7%)
  • 3-4 -> Quince (72.9%), Setsuki (71.9%), Argagarg (71.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Quince (63.0%), Persephone (59.0%), Argagarg (57.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Quince (55.7%), Setsuki (53.9%), Argagarg (53.8%)
  • 3-3 -> Quince (54.1%), Setsuki (53.3%), Argagarg (52.9%)
  • 4-4 -> Quince (53.7%), Setsuki (52.9%), Argagarg (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (33.3%), Quince (33.2%), Argagarg (31.8%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (29.6%), Quince (28.6%), Argagarg (28.3%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (22.5%), Quince (20.2%), Argagarg (19.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (14.8%), Argagarg (13.6%), Quince (13.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.2%), Menelker (7.1%), Rook (6.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.8%), Menelker (2.6%), Rook (2.6%)
Gwen counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (98.7%), Onimaru (98.5%), BBB (98.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (96.1%), Onimaru (95.7%), BBB (95.4%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (91.4%), Onimaru (90.8%), Setsuki (90.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (88.4%), Onimaru (87.4%), BBB (86.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (80.7%), Onimaru (79.9%), Setsuki (78.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Lum (75.1%), Setsuki (74.4%), Onimaru (74.1%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (66.0%), Onimaru (63.0%), BBB (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Lum (59.1%), Setsuki (57.5%), Onimaru (56.6%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (56.3%), Lum (55.9%), Grave (55.0%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (55.6%), Lum (54.8%), Grave (54.2%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (35.5%), Grave (33.9%), BBB (33.8%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (31.8%), BBB (30.8%), Grave (30.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (24.6%), BBB (24.0%), Grave (22.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (15.9%), BBB (15.7%), Grave (15.2%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.1%), BBB (9.6%), Grave (8.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.1%), BBB (3.8%), Grave (3.0%)
Jaina counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (99.1%), Onimaru (99.0%), Rook (98.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (97.0%), Onimaru (96.7%), Rook (96.3%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (91.6%), Onimaru (91.6%), Lum (90.8%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (90.4%), Onimaru (89.5%), Rook (87.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (81.4%), Onimaru (81.4%), Lum (79.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (77.0%), Onimaru (75.8%), Grave (74.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (69.0%), Onimaru (66.0%), Rook (61.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (60.7%), Onimaru (57.7%), Grave (55.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (58.6%), Onimaru (55.5%), Setsuki (55.4%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (56.6%), Setsuki (54.7%), Onimaru (54.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (35.7%), Setsuki (34.4%), Rook (34.1%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (32.4%), Setsuki (30.5%), Rook (30.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Argagarg (23.5%), Setsuki (23.4%), Rook (23.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Argagarg (15.8%), Rook (15.5%), Setsuki (15.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.6%), Rook (8.8%), BBB (8.3%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.9%), Rook (3.3%), BBB (3.3%)
Lum counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (99.0%), Menelker (98.7%), Midori (98.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (96.7%), Menelker (95.9%), Midori (95.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (91.3%), Menelker (90.3%), Lum (88.9%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (89.8%), Menelker (87.2%), Midori (84.6%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (80.9%), Menelker (79.0%), Lum (75.9%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (76.5%), Menelker (74.4%), Vendetta (71.4%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (68.0%), Menelker (60.0%), Midori (52.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (60.1%), Menelker (56.0%), Lum (50.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (58.0%), Menelker (55.3%), Midori (50.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (56.1%), Menelker (54.4%), Midori (50.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (35.3%), Menelker (34.2%), Midori (30.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (31.7%), Menelker (29.9%), Midori (25.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Argagarg (23.1%), Menelker (22.2%), Midori (19.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Argagarg (15.3%), Menelker (14.1%), Midori (12.4%)
  • 3-1 -> Menelker (8.2%), Argagarg (7.9%), Midori (7.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (3.0%), Setsuki (2.8%), BBB (2.8%)
Menelker counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Onimaru (98.1%), Rook (97.9%), Argagarg (97.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Onimaru (94.9%), Rook (94.3%), Argagarg (93.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Onimaru (90.0%), Rook (88.8%), Argagarg (88.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Onimaru (86.3%), Rook (84.5%), Argagarg (83.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Onimaru (78.6%), Rook (75.8%), Argagarg (74.9%)
  • 3-4 -> Onimaru (73.0%), Rook (71.3%), Argagarg (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Onimaru (63.0%), Rook (58.0%), Argagarg (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Onimaru (55.6%), Rook (53.3%), Argagarg (52.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Onimaru (53.2%), Rook (52.4%), Argagarg (51.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Onimaru (52.5%), Rook (52.2%), Argagarg (51.0%)
  • 4-3 -> Rook (32.8%), Setsuki (31.6%), Argagarg (31.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Rook (28.9%), Setsuki (27.3%), Argagarg (27.3%)
  • 2-1 -> Rook (22.0%), Setsuki (20.5%), Midori (18.9%)
  • 4-2 -> Rook (14.7%), Setsuki (13.6%), Argagarg (13.1%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (8.4%), Rook (8.4%), BBB (7.0%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.4%), Rook (3.2%), BBB (2.8%)
Midori counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.1%), Argagarg (98.1%), Valerie (98.0%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (94.9%), Argagarg (94.8%), Valerie (94.7%)
  • 2-4 -> BBB (89.8%), Argagarg (89.6%), Valerie (89.3%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (86.3%), Argagarg (85.9%), Valerie (85.6%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (78.9%), Argagarg (78.4%), Valerie (77.8%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (74.1%), Argagarg (74.0%), Valerie (73.1%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (63.0%), Argagarg (62.0%), Valerie (61.0%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (58.3%), Argagarg (57.6%), Valerie (55.9%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (55.8%), Argagarg (55.8%), Setsuki (54.7%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (54.7%), Argagarg (54.1%), Setsuki (53.9%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (34.8%), Setsuki (34.3%), Argagarg (33.9%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.9%), Setsuki (30.3%), Argagarg (30.3%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (25.2%), Setsuki (23.0%), Argagarg (21.1%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (16.2%), Setsuki (15.1%), Argagarg (14.6%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (10.1%), Setsuki (9.4%), Argagarg (7.2%)
  • 4-1 -> BBB (4.0%), Setsuki (3.9%), Rook (2.6%)
Onimaru counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (99.7%), Argagarg (99.6%), Quince (99.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (98.8%), Argagarg (98.1%), Quince (98.1%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (94.7%), Argagarg (92.0%), Quince (91.7%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (94.3%), Argagarg (92.5%), Quince (92.3%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (85.6%), Argagarg (81.7%), Quince (81.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Lum (79.0%), Argagarg (76.4%), Quince (75.4%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (77.0%), Argagarg (65.0%), Quince (64.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Lum (64.9%), Argagarg (59.0%), Quince (57.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Lum (60.1%), Argagarg (57.2%), Quince (55.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Lum (58.1%), Argagarg (55.4%), Quince (54.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Lum (35.9%), Argagarg (34.5%), Quince (33.7%)
  • 3-2 -> Lum (32.6%), Argagarg (30.5%), Quince (28.5%)
  • 2-1 -> Lum (24.6%), Argagarg (22.1%), Quince (20.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Lum (15.4%), Argagarg (14.8%), Quince (13.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (7.9%), Lum (7.9%), Argagarg (7.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.2%), BBB (2.9%), Rook (2.8%)
Persephone counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (99.5%), Setsuki (99.4%), Valerie (99.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (98.0%), Setsuki (97.7%), Valerie (97.7%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (93.5%), Setsuki (92.7%), Valerie (92.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (92.7%), Setsuki (91.6%), Valerie (91.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (84.2%), Setsuki (83.0%), Valerie (81.8%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (78.6%), Lum (78.3%), Valerie (76.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (73.0%), Setsuki (69.0%), Valerie (68.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Lum (63.8%), Setsuki (63.6%), Valerie (60.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (61.2%), Lum (59.5%), Valerie (58.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (59.7%), Lum (57.8%), Valerie (56.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (39.0%), Valerie (36.0%), Menelker (35.5%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (35.5%), Lum (32.3%), Menelker (31.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (28.3%), Lum (23.4%), BBB (23.2%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (17.9%), BBB (15.6%), Lum (15.2%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (11.6%), BBB (9.3%), Midori (8.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.8%), BBB (3.7%), Midori (3.1%)
Quince counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Jaina (99.0%), BBB (98.8%), Lum (98.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Jaina (96.7%), BBB (96.1%), Lum (95.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Jaina (91.1%), Lum (90.4%), BBB (90.4%)
  • 1-2 -> Jaina (89.8%), BBB (87.8%), Lum (87.2%)
  • 2-3 -> Jaina (80.7%), BBB (79.2%), Lum (79.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Jaina (75.2%), BBB (73.9%), Lum (73.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Jaina (68.0%), BBB (62.0%), Lum (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Jaina (60.0%), BBB (57.7%), Lum (56.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Jaina (56.0%), BBB (55.2%), Lum (53.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Jaina (54.7%), BBB (54.3%), Lum (52.6%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (34.4%), Jaina (33.3%), Rook (32.4%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.5%), Jaina (29.9%), Rook (28.5%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (24.8%), Jaina (21.1%), Rook (20.9%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (16.0%), Rook (14.4%), Jaina (13.9%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (9.9%), Rook (7.9%), Setsuki (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> BBB (4.0%), Setsuki (3.2%), Rook (3.0%)
Rook counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gloria (97.9%), BBB (97.8%), Argagarg (97.7%)
  • 1-3 -> Gloria (94.5%), BBB (94.2%), Argagarg (93.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Gloria (88.7%), BBB (88.6%), Lum (88.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Gloria (85.6%), BBB (84.8%), Argagarg (84.0%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (77.1%), Gloria (76.9%), Argagarg (76.3%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (72.6%), Gloria (72.2%), Argagarg (72.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Gloria (62.0%), BBB (60.0%), Argagarg (58.0%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (56.3%), Argagarg (55.0%), Gloria (55.0%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (54.1%), Setsuki (53.8%), Argagarg (53.7%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (53.3%), Setsuki (53.1%), Gloria (52.8%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (33.7%), BBB (33.6%), Gloria (32.7%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (30.6%), Setsuki (29.7%), Argagarg (28.8%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (24.0%), Setsuki (22.5%), Gloria (20.5%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (15.6%), Setsuki (14.8%), Gloria (13.9%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (9.6%), Setsuki (9.2%), Midori (7.3%)
  • 4-1 -> BBB (3.8%), Setsuki (3.8%), Rook (2.7%)
Setsuki counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (97.2%), Gloria (96.8%), Onimaru (96.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (93.1%), Gloria (92.1%), Onimaru (92.1%)
  • 2-4 -> Lum (88.4%), Onimaru (87.1%), Quince (86.7%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (83.2%), Gloria (80.7%), Onimaru (80.7%)
  • 2-3 -> Lum (76.2%), Onimaru (74.1%), Quince (73.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Lum (71.1%), Onimaru (69.0%), Setsuki (68.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (59.0%), Gloria (53.0%), Onimaru (53.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Lum (53.8%), Setsuki (50.0%), Onimaru (49.6%)
  • 3-3 -> Lum (51.5%), Setsuki (50.0%), Menelker (49.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Lum (50.9%), Setsuki (50.0%), Quince (49.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (31.1%), Lum (30.4%), Menelker (30.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (27.3%), Lum (27.0%), Menelker (26.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (20.5%), Lum (18.9%), Menelker (18.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (13.6%), Lum (12.7%), BBB (12.6%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (8.4%), BBB (7.4%), Menelker (6.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (3.4%), BBB (2.9%), Menelker (2.5%)
Valerie counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Jaina (98.8%), Lum (98.6%), BBB (98.6%)
  • 1-3 -> Jaina (96.4%), Lum (95.9%), BBB (95.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Jaina (90.8%), Lum (90.6%), BBB (90.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Jaina (89.1%), Lum (87.5%), BBB (87.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Jaina (80.2%), Lum (79.5%), BBB (78.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Jaina (74.8%), Lum (73.6%), BBB (73.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Jaina (67.0%), Lum (62.0%), BBB (61.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Jaina (59.3%), BBB (57.0%), Lum (56.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Jaina (55.5%), Setsuki (55.2%), BBB (54.7%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (54.6%), Jaina (54.5%), BBB (54.1%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (34.8%), BBB (34.0%), Jaina (32.9%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.0%), Setsuki (30.9%), Jaina (29.5%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (24.4%), Setsuki (23.8%), Rook (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (15.8%), Setsuki (15.5%), Rook (14.6%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (9.8%), Setsuki (9.7%), Rook (8.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.0%), BBB (3.9%), Rook (3.1%)
Vendetta counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Valerie (99.3%), Onimaru (99.1%), Setsuki (99.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Valerie (97.6%), Onimaru (96.8%), Setsuki (96.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (91.8%), Onimaru (91.0%), Setsuki (90.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Valerie (91.6%), Onimaru (89.0%), Setsuki (88.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (81.7%), Onimaru (80.2%), Setsuki (78.9%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (76.6%), Setsuki (74.8%), Onimaru (74.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Valerie (71.0%), Onimaru (62.0%), Setsuki (59.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (60.7%), Setsuki (56.8%), Onimaru (55.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (58.2%), Setsuki (55.9%), Argagarg (54.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (56.8%), Setsuki (55.5%), Grave (53.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (36.1%), Setsuki (35.0%), Grave (33.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (31.7%), Setsuki (31.3%), Grave (29.8%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (24.2%), Valerie (23.4%), BBB (21.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (15.7%), Valerie (15.3%), Grave (14.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (9.9%), BBB (8.6%), Grave (7.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.1%), BBB (3.5%), Rook (3.0%)
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Composite counterpicks, 19XX meta

Argagarg counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gloria (98.5%), Persephone (98.2%), Midori (98.0%)
  • 1-3 -> Gloria (95.7%), Persephone (94.8%), Midori (94.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Gloria (88.4%), Persephone (87.2%), Midori (86.7%)
  • 1-2 -> Gloria (87.8%), Persephone (85.1%), Midori (83.4%)
  • 2-3 -> Gloria (76.9%), Persephone (74.8%), Setsuki (74.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Gloria (72.2%), Persephone (70.5%), Setsuki (70.1%)
  • 1-1 -> Gloria (65.0%), Persephone (57.5%), Midori (52.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Gloria (56.6%), Persephone (53.7%), Setsuki (53.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Gloria (54.4%), Persephone (52.4%), Setsuki (51.6%)
  • 4-4 -> Gloria (53.8%), Persephone (52.1%), Setsuki (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Gloria (35.0%), Persephone (33.1%), Setsuki (33.1%)
  • 3-2 -> Gloria (31.5%), Setsuki (29.9%), Persephone (29.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Gloria (26.0%), Setsuki (23.6%), Quince (22.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Gloria (16.7%), Setsuki (16.3%), Valerie (15.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.6%), Gloria (10.4%), Menelker (9.6%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.8%), Menelker (4.3%), Gloria (4.2%)
BBB counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), Gloria (97.4%), Grave (97.4%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), Gloria (93.6%), Grave (93.6%)
  • 2-4 -> Grave (87.9%), Valerie (87.9%), Argagarg (87.8%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), Gloria (84.0%), Grave (84.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Grave (76.7%), Valerie (76.7%), Argagarg (76.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Grave (72.6%), Valerie (72.2%), Argagarg (72.0%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), Gloria (60.0%), Grave (60.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Grave (56.8%), Valerie (56.6%), Setsuki (55.6%)
  • 3-3 -> Grave (55.0%), Valerie (54.4%), Argagarg (54.2%)
  • 4-4 -> Grave (53.9%), Valerie (53.7%), Setsuki (53.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Grave (35.1%), Setsuki (35.1%), Valerie (35.0%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (32.6%), Setsuki (32.1%), Valerie (32.1%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (25.9%), Valerie (25.5%), Menelker (24.8%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (17.6%), Valerie (17.2%), Grave (17.1%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (11.6%), Menelker (11.1%), Valerie (10.8%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.2%), Menelker (5.0%), Valerie (4.6%)
Gloria counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Setsuki (97.4%), Lum (97.3%), Midori (97.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Setsuki (93.6%), Lum (93.2%), Midori (92.8%)
  • 2-4 -> Setsuki (88.0%), Lum (87.3%), Midori (87.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Setsuki (84.0%), Lum (83.0%), Midori (82.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Setsuki (76.8%), Lum (75.4%), Midori (75.1%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (72.6%), Lum (71.3%), Midori (70.6%)
  • 1-1 -> Setsuki (60.0%), Lum (57.5%), Midori (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Setsuki (57.3%), Lum (54.7%), Valerie (53.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (55.2%), Lum (53.1%), Midori (52.5%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (54.7%), Lum (52.4%), Midori (51.9%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (36.1%), Menelker (33.7%), Lum (33.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (33.2%), Menelker (30.0%), Lum (30.0%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (27.0%), Menelker (23.6%), Valerie (22.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (18.2%), Menelker (16.4%), Valerie (15.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (12.1%), Menelker (10.6%), Valerie (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.5%), Menelker (4.8%), Valerie (4.0%)
Grave counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), Quince (97.0%), Gloria (96.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), Quince (92.4%), Gloria (92.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (87.1%), Quince (85.5%), Onimaru (85.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), Quince (81.0%), Gloria (80.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (75.0%), Quince (72.0%), Onimaru (71.7%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (71.2%), Quince (69.0%), Grave (68.7%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), Quince (52.5%), Gloria (50.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (53.4%), Quince (50.2%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (53.2%), Quince (50.5%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (52.5%), Quince (50.7%), Grave (50.0%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (33.6%), Quince (32.2%), Menelker (31.7%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (30.1%), Quince (28.5%), Grave (28.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Menelker (22.5%), Quince (22.3%), Argagarg (21.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Argagarg (15.7%), Menelker (15.5%), Quince (15.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Menelker (10.1%), Quince (9.5%), Setsuki (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (4.6%), Setsuki (4.1%), Quince (4.0%)
Gwen counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Valerie (97.4%), Argagarg (97.3%), Grave (97.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Valerie (93.6%), Argagarg (93.2%), Grave (93.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (87.9%), Grave (87.4%), Argagarg (87.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Valerie (84.0%), Argagarg (83.0%), Grave (83.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (76.5%), Grave (75.6%), Argagarg (75.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (71.8%), Grave (71.4%), Argagarg (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Valerie (60.0%), Argagarg (57.5%), Grave (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (56.4%), Grave (55.4%), Onimaru (53.6%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (54.0%), Grave (53.7%), Argagarg (52.9%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (53.6%), Grave (52.9%), Argagarg (52.2%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (34.8%), Grave (34.2%), Argagarg (33.4%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (31.7%), Grave (31.4%), Setsuki (30.0%)
  • 2-1 -> Valerie (25.5%), Setsuki (23.6%), Grave (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Valerie (17.0%), Grave (16.4%), Setsuki (16.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Valerie (10.8%), Setsuki (10.6%), Quince (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.8%), Valerie (4.6%), Menelker (4.1%)
Jaina counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (97.4%), Setsuki (97.4%), Grave (97.3%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (93.6%), Setsuki (93.6%), Grave (93.2%)
  • 2-4 -> Setsuki (88.0%), Argagarg (87.9%), Grave (87.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (84.0%), Setsuki (84.0%), Grave (83.0%)
  • 2-3 -> Setsuki (76.8%), Argagarg (76.5%), Grave (76.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (72.6%), Argagarg (72.0%), Grave (71.9%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (60.0%), Setsuki (60.0%), Grave (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Setsuki (57.3%), Grave (56.0%), Argagarg (55.2%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (55.2%), Argagarg (54.4%), Grave (54.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (54.7%), Grave (53.5%), Argagarg (53.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (36.1%), Grave (34.7%), Argagarg (34.6%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (33.2%), Grave (32.0%), Argagarg (30.9%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (27.0%), Menelker (24.8%), Grave (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (18.2%), Menelker (17.0%), Grave (16.7%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (12.1%), Menelker (11.1%), Grave (9.2%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.5%), Menelker (5.0%), Grave (3.7%)
Lum counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (98.5%), Grave (98.2%), Menelker (98.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (95.7%), Grave (94.8%), Menelker (94.5%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (89.2%), Grave (88.0%), Menelker (87.3%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (87.8%), Grave (85.1%), Menelker (84.2%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (78.0%), Grave (75.8%), Menelker (74.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (73.7%), Grave (72.2%), Menelker (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (65.0%), Grave (57.5%), Menelker (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (56.8%), Grave (55.1%), Menelker (52.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (55.8%), Grave (53.8%), Menelker (52.4%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (54.7%), Grave (53.3%), Menelker (52.3%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (35.5%), Grave (34.1%), Menelker (33.8%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (32.1%), Grave (31.5%), Menelker (30.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Menelker (24.8%), Grave (23.0%), Argagarg (22.7%)
  • 4-2 -> Argagarg (16.8%), Menelker (16.8%), Grave (16.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Menelker (11.1%), Grave (9.2%), Setsuki (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (5.0%), Setsuki (4.1%), Grave (3.7%)
Menelker counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gwen (95.9%), Midori (95.9%), Rook (95.9%)
  • 1-3 -> Gwen (90.9%), Midori (90.9%), Rook (90.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Midori (85.7%), Setsuki (85.6%), Valerie (85.6%)
  • 1-2 -> Gwen (79.8%), Midori (79.8%), Rook (79.8%)
  • 2-3 -> Setsuki (73.6%), Valerie (73.6%), Midori (73.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Setsuki (69.9%), Valerie (69.6%), Rook (69.5%)
  • 1-1 -> Gwen (55.0%), Midori (55.0%), Rook (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Setsuki (53.8%), Valerie (53.5%), Rook (52.4%)
  • 3-3 -> Setsuki (52.3%), Rook (51.9%), Valerie (51.8%)
  • 4-4 -> Setsuki (52.2%), Valerie (51.7%), Rook (51.5%)
  • 4-3 -> Setsuki (34.0%), Valerie (33.3%), Rook (33.1%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (31.0%), Valerie (30.1%), Rook (29.4%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (24.8%), Valerie (23.4%), Menelker (22.5%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (17.0%), Valerie (16.1%), Menelker (15.7%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (11.1%), Menelker (10.1%), Valerie (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.0%), Menelker (4.6%), Valerie (4.2%)
Midori counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.5%), Lum (98.2%), Onimaru (98.2%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (95.7%), Lum (94.8%), Onimaru (94.8%)
  • 2-4 -> BBB (88.7%), Onimaru (87.9%), Lum (87.5%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (87.8%), Lum (85.1%), Onimaru (85.1%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (77.5%), Onimaru (76.1%), Lum (75.4%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (72.8%), Onimaru (71.3%), Quince (71.2%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (65.0%), Lum (57.5%), Onimaru (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (57.3%), Onimaru (55.1%), Lum (54.3%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (54.9%), Quince (53.1%), Onimaru (52.7%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (54.4%), Quince (52.9%), Onimaru (52.1%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (35.1%), Quince (34.2%), Rook (33.0%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.7%), Quince (30.4%), Onimaru (29.6%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (26.0%), Quince (24.4%), Valerie (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (16.7%), Quince (16.3%), Grave (15.2%)
  • 3-1 -> BBB (10.4%), Quince (10.4%), Menelker (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Quince (4.4%), BBB (4.2%), Menelker (4.1%)
Onimaru counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Argagarg (98.5%), Lum (98.1%), Persephone (98.1%)
  • 1-3 -> Argagarg (95.7%), Lum (94.5%), Persephone (94.5%)
  • 2-4 -> Argagarg (89.1%), Lum (87.2%), Quince (87.2%)
  • 1-2 -> Argagarg (87.8%), Lum (84.2%), Persephone (84.2%)
  • 2-3 -> Argagarg (77.8%), Lum (74.2%), Quince (74.2%)
  • 3-4 -> Argagarg (73.6%), Quince (70.8%), Lum (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Argagarg (65.0%), Lum (55.0%), Persephone (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Argagarg (56.3%), Lum (51.9%), Quince (51.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Argagarg (55.6%), Quince (52.2%), Grave (51.8%)
  • 4-4 -> Argagarg (54.6%), Quince (52.3%), Grave (51.7%)
  • 4-3 -> Argagarg (35.4%), Quince (33.4%), Grave (32.4%)
  • 3-2 -> Argagarg (31.7%), Quince (29.3%), Grave (29.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Quince (23.4%), Argagarg (22.7%), Menelker (21.4%)
  • 4-2 -> Argagarg (16.5%), Quince (15.7%), Grave (15.2%)
  • 3-1 -> Quince (9.9%), Menelker (9.6%), Setsuki (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (4.3%), Quince (4.2%), Setsuki (4.1%)
Persephone counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Gwen (98.0%), BBB (97.9%), Setsuki (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Gwen (94.7%), BBB (94.4%), Setsuki (94.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Gwen (88.3%), BBB (87.6%), Setsuki (87.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Gwen (85.9%), BBB (85.0%), Setsuki (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Gwen (76.8%), Setsuki (75.6%), Valerie (75.6%)
  • 3-4 -> Gwen (72.4%), Setsuki (71.7%), Valerie (71.4%)
  • 1-1 -> Gwen (62.5%), BBB (60.0%), Setsuki (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Gwen (56.3%), Setsuki (55.6%), Valerie (55.3%)
  • 3-3 -> Gwen (54.7%), Setsuki (53.8%), BBB (53.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Gwen (54.0%), Setsuki (53.6%), BBB (53.0%)
  • 4-3 -> Gwen (35.3%), Setsuki (35.1%), Valerie (34.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Setsuki (32.1%), Gwen (31.6%), Valerie (31.2%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (25.9%), Gwen (25.0%), Menelker (24.8%)
  • 4-2 -> Setsuki (17.6%), Menelker (16.9%), Valerie (16.7%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (11.6%), Menelker (11.1%), Valerie (10.4%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.2%), Menelker (5.0%), Valerie (4.4%)
Quince counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (96.7%), Valerie (96.7%), Gloria (96.5%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (92.3%), Valerie (92.3%), Gloria (91.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (86.7%), BBB (86.3%), Menelker (86.0%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (81.9%), Valerie (81.9%), Gloria (80.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (75.0%), BBB (74.1%), Menelker (73.5%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (70.6%), BBB (69.8%), Menelker (69.4%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (57.5%), Valerie (57.5%), Gloria (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (54.8%), BBB (53.1%), Menelker (52.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (52.8%), BBB (51.9%), Menelker (51.9%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (52.4%), BBB (51.7%), Menelker (51.6%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (33.9%), Menelker (33.8%), BBB (33.0%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (31.0%), Menelker (30.4%), BBB (29.5%)
  • 2-1 -> Menelker (24.8%), Valerie (24.4%), BBB (23.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Menelker (16.8%), Valerie (16.6%), Setsuki (15.9%)
  • 3-1 -> Menelker (11.1%), Valerie (10.4%), Setsuki (10.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Menelker (5.0%), Setsuki (4.6%), Valerie (4.4%)
Rook counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> BBB (98.0%), Lum (97.9%), Onimaru (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> BBB (94.7%), Lum (94.4%), Onimaru (94.0%)
  • 2-4 -> BBB (87.8%), Lum (87.4%), Onimaru (87.4%)
  • 1-2 -> BBB (85.9%), Lum (85.0%), Onimaru (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> BBB (76.1%), Lum (75.6%), Onimaru (75.5%)
  • 3-4 -> BBB (71.6%), Lum (71.4%), Onimaru (70.8%)
  • 1-1 -> BBB (62.5%), Lum (60.0%), Onimaru (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> BBB (55.7%), Lum (55.2%), Onimaru (54.7%)
  • 3-3 -> BBB (53.7%), Lum (53.1%), Onimaru (52.4%)
  • 4-4 -> BBB (53.4%), Lum (52.4%), Valerie (51.8%)
  • 4-3 -> BBB (34.3%), Lum (33.1%), Valerie (33.0%)
  • 3-2 -> BBB (31.0%), Lum (30.2%), Valerie (29.9%)
  • 2-1 -> BBB (25.0%), Setsuki (23.6%), Valerie (23.4%)
  • 4-2 -> BBB (16.4%), Setsuki (16.3%), Valerie (16.0%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.6%), BBB (10.0%), Valerie (9.9%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.8%), Menelker (4.3%), Valerie (4.2%)
Setsuki counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Grave (95.9%), Lum (95.9%), Midori (95.9%)
  • 1-3 -> Grave (90.9%), Lum (90.9%), Midori (90.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Onimaru (85.6%), Midori (85.5%), Grave (85.5%)
  • 1-2 -> Grave (79.8%), Lum (79.8%), Midori (79.8%)
  • 2-3 -> Onimaru (73.3%), Grave (73.2%), Midori (73.0%)
  • 3-4 -> Grave (69.8%), Onimaru (69.3%), Midori (69.2%)
  • 1-1 -> Grave (55.0%), Lum (55.0%), Midori (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Grave (52.8%), Onimaru (52.3%), Lum (51.5%)
  • 3-3 -> Grave (52.0%), Midori (51.2%), Onimaru (51.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Grave (51.3%), Midori (50.5%), Onimaru (50.3%)
  • 4-3 -> Grave (32.9%), Quince (32.3%), Midori (31.9%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (30.2%), Setsuki (28.7%), Onimaru (28.6%)
  • 2-1 -> Setsuki (22.5%), Quince (22.3%), Grave (22.0%)
  • 4-2 -> Grave (15.8%), Setsuki (15.6%), Quince (15.3%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.1%), Menelker (9.6%), Quince (9.5%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.6%), Menelker (4.3%), Quince (4.0%)
Valerie counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Grave (96.7%), Onimaru (96.7%), Lum (96.5%)
  • 1-3 -> Grave (92.3%), Onimaru (92.3%), Lum (91.9%)
  • 2-4 -> Onimaru (86.8%), Grave (86.7%), Lum (85.9%)
  • 1-2 -> Grave (81.9%), Onimaru (81.9%), Lum (80.9%)
  • 2-3 -> Onimaru (74.9%), Grave (74.8%), Lum (73.3%)
  • 3-4 -> Grave (71.2%), Onimaru (70.7%), Lum (69.8%)
  • 1-1 -> Grave (57.5%), Onimaru (57.5%), Lum (55.0%)
  • 2-2 -> Grave (54.3%), Onimaru (53.8%), Lum (51.7%)
  • 3-3 -> Grave (53.4%), Onimaru (52.5%), Lum (51.3%)
  • 4-4 -> Grave (52.6%), Onimaru (51.5%), Lum (50.7%)
  • 4-3 -> Grave (33.9%), Onimaru (32.4%), Setsuki (32.2%)
  • 3-2 -> Grave (31.1%), Onimaru (29.4%), Setsuki (28.7%)
  • 2-1 -> Grave (23.0%), Setsuki (22.5%), Valerie (21.3%)
  • 4-2 -> Grave (16.3%), Setsuki (15.6%), Valerie (14.8%)
  • 3-1 -> Setsuki (10.1%), Grave (9.2%), Menelker (9.1%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (4.6%), Menelker (4.1%), Valerie (3.8%)
Vendetta counterpicks
  • 1-4 -> Lum (98.0%), Valerie (98.0%), Grave (97.8%)
  • 1-3 -> Lum (94.7%), Valerie (94.7%), Grave (94.0%)
  • 2-4 -> Valerie (88.9%), Lum (88.6%), Grave (88.0%)
  • 1-2 -> Lum (85.9%), Valerie (85.9%), Grave (84.1%)
  • 2-3 -> Valerie (78.0%), Lum (77.3%), Grave (76.4%)
  • 3-4 -> Valerie (73.1%), Lum (72.8%), Grave (72.0%)
  • 1-1 -> Lum (62.5%), Valerie (62.5%), Grave (57.5%)
  • 2-2 -> Valerie (58.1%), Lum (57.0%), Grave (55.9%)
  • 3-3 -> Valerie (55.4%), Lum (54.7%), Grave (54.1%)
  • 4-4 -> Valerie (54.7%), Lum (53.7%), Grave (53.4%)
  • 4-3 -> Valerie (35.7%), Grave (34.4%), Setsuki (34.3%)
  • 3-2 -> Valerie (32.8%), Grave (31.6%), Lum (31.3%)
  • 2-1 -> Valerie (26.6%), Setsuki (24.8%), Menelker (23.6%)
  • 4-2 -> Valerie (17.6%), Setsuki (17.0%), Grave (16.5%)
  • 3-1 -> Valerie (11.3%), Setsuki (11.1%), Menelker (10.6%)
  • 4-1 -> Setsuki (5.0%), Valerie (4.8%), Menelker (4.8%)
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I just did a bunch more data analysis. My big takeaway is, there are lots more viable characters than just the Carousel. For instance, vs Zane, Troq is the top pick. But the other two grapplers are within a few percent at most win-states of the match, so if you play a better Midori than you do a Troq, you’re probably better off throwing down w/ him. (And if you prefer the composite matchup chart, Onimaru and Grave are both defensible picks as well).

Likewise, there are a bunch of non-carousel characters that are within a percent or two of being top picks against Troq, Geiger, and DeGrey.

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This makes me think about the most interesting style of counterpicking. If I am playing Zane, I will grit my teeth and fight it out with Rook or Onimaru. If counterpicked by Troq, I will immediately switch to Troq’s hard cp Geiger. My point is that sometimes I am willing to give up a small advantage to challenge myself. These types of matches have been the most fun that I have had in Yomi.

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I’m back with another post in the “@vengefulpickle does too much math about Yomi” series.

This time, I decided to look at the question of “What should 19XX look like?” that @mysticjuicer was toying with in another thread.

To that end, I pulled the number of times that each character was counterpicked with each character from all IYL, NFTT, and Summer Smash tournaments (since they are all formats that I know use the full cast), and the win rates from all recorded tournament games, and then I estimated using those as probabilities to count the expected number of wins by each character in a Bo7 set.

With the full-cast 20XX meta, the results are:

  1. Zane: 0.569
  2. Troq: 0.511
  3. Degrey: 0.447
  4. Setsuki: 0.435
  5. Geiger: 0.399
the rest
  1. Argagarg: 0.383
  2. Grave: 0.353
  3. Rook: 0.284
  4. Onimaru: 0.27
  5. Lum: 0.243
  6. Valerie: 0.238
  7. Gwen: 0.232
  8. Quince: 0.23
  9. Vendetta: 0.204
  10. Menelker: 0.194
  11. Gloria: 0.189
  12. Bbb: 0.188
  13. Midori: 0.174
  14. Persephone: 0.159
  15. Jaina: 0.124

As percentages:

  1. Zane: 9.77
  2. Troq: 8.78
  3. Degrey: 7.67
  4. Setsuki: 7.46
  5. Geiger: 6.85

[details=the rest]

  1. Argagarg: 6.58
  2. Grave: 6.07
  3. Rook: 4.88
  4. Onimaru: 4.63
  5. Lum: 4.16
  6. Valerie: 4.08
  7. Gwen: 3.99
  8. Quince: 3.95
  9. Vendetta: 3.5
  10. Menelker: 3.33
  11. Gloria: 3.24
  12. Bbb: 3.23
  13. Midori: 2.99
  14. Persephone: 2.73
  15. Jaina: 2.12[/details]

Zane, Troq, and Degrey are clearly pretty important in this meta (although, it seems like Setsuki should be giving Degrey a run for his money). What happens if we remove Zane from the mix?

  1. Degrey: 8.71
  2. Troq: 8.47
  3. Setsuki: 8.3
  4. Geiger: 7.8
  5. Argagarg: 7.75

[details=the rest]

  1. Grave: 6.7
  2. Rook: 5.15
  3. Onimaru: 4.83
  4. Lum: 4.64
  5. Gwen: 4.54
  6. Quince: 4.51
  7. Valerie: 4.39
  8. Vendetta: 3.95
  9. Menelker: 3.88
  10. Bbb: 3.66
  11. Gloria: 3.63
  12. Midori: 3.39
  13. Persephone: 3.21
  14. Jaina: 2.5[/details]

Degrey gets stronger, but not as influential as Zane was. Troq is slightly less crucial, since he isn’t the obvious counterpick to Zane.

Dumping Degrey:

  1. Argagarg: 8.94
  2. Geiger: 8.74
  3. Troq: 8.72
  4. Setsuki: 8.62
  5. Grave: 7.44

[details=the rest]

  1. Onimaru: 5.75
  2. Rook: 5.52
  3. Lum: 5.32
  4. Gwen: 4.92
  5. Valerie: 4.87
  6. Quince: 4.78
  7. Menelker: 4.29
  8. Bbb: 4.12
  9. Vendetta: 4.09
  10. Gloria: 3.99
  11. Midori: 3.71
  12. Persephone: 3.42
  13. Jaina: 2.78[/details]

This is where the results started to surprise me. The fish jumps on top, and Geiger, Troq and Setsuki show up as a relatively tight pack lower down.

Going to full 19XX:

  1. Argagarg: 11.4
  2. Setsuki: 10.5
  3. Grave: 8.76
  4. Rook: 6.78
  5. Lum: 6.35

[details=the rest]

  1. Onimaru: 6.33
  2. Quince: 6.22
  3. Gwen: 6.14
  4. Valerie: 5.9
  5. Gloria: 5.13
  6. Midori: 4.81
  7. Bbb: 4.77
  8. Vendetta: 4.72
  9. Menelker: 4.66
  10. Persephone: 3.98
  11. Jaina: 3.55[/details]

Argagarg is way out on top, with Setsuki not far behind, and Grave bringing up the rear. By this analysis, this looks actually more unbalanced than the full 20XX meta (although, 19XX doesn’t seem to have as big an Arg showing in reality as this would predict. Bad math? An opportunity to be exploited in 19XX 4? You decide!)

EDIT: Also, if you have particular sets of characters that you want to see analyzed, let me know.

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I’d like to have a better understanding of what “expected number of wins by each character in a bo7 set” means, in the format you’ve presented the numbers. 0.569 for Zane means… what exactly? He wins 0.569 of a game? He wins 0.569 of a set?

Same for the percentages. Zane wins 9.77% of a game, or a set? Something else?

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The basic procedure would be something like: based on the historical blindpicks, pick a random matchup. Based on the historical matchup percentages, pick a random winner. Based on the historical counterclaims, counterpicks the losers next character. Repeat until the Bo7 is complete. Count the number of wins by each character. Run that procedure a large number of tines, and average the number of games won by each character.

The actual method I used was to compute the exact probabilities at each step, so there was no actual randomness involved. The code is here: yomi-skill/Counterpick Computations.ipynb at master · cpennington/yomi-skill · GitHub

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Okay, so the first set of values are ‘# of games won’ and then the later percentages are ‘character’s # of games won as a percentage of total # of games won by the cast’? Thanks!

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This matches my observations pretty closely. A while back I ran some comparative historical numbers for 20XX and 19XX to look at two things: (1) are the popular characters in 19XX more or less popular than the popular characters in 20XX, and (2) are the successful characters in 19XX more or less successful than the successful characters in 20XX.

The answer to both questions was ‘yes’. Setsuki in 19XX is more popular than Zane or Troq in 20XX, and more dominant than either of them in 20XX, if I’m remembering correctly. The Argagarg numbers you’re showing, probably don’t reflect the fact that players now expect a higher number of strong pocket Glorias from their opponents than they would have in 19XX 1?

In one sense it doesn’t bother me because one of the reasons for the format was just to see less Zane, Troq, Geiger, and DeGrey. Which it would be very hard for 19XX not to succeed at. :smiley: On the other hand, I had also hoped to see a “wider” carousel develop: instead of “Top 3 and Friends” I hoped for “Top 6 and Friends”, or something.

I haven’t entirely given up on that happening, actually, and part of the reason is that historical results, and predictions based on historical results, don’t account for discovery and personal growth. I feel like up until about a year ago, BBB was still considered a hard counter to Troq, and I don’t think that’s the consensus now. And BBB/Troq isn’t what I would call a very complicated MU.

I think 19XX right now is still at the “I’ll play my main OR Setsuki/Argagarg if it’s a good MU for them OR a pocket character that I have against some specific character.” I don’t think that people are really experienced with “19XX characters that do well against Setsuki” yet, and I still think there’s possible room for an unexpected CP against Setsuki to arise out of the restricted options in 19XX.

Maybe that won’t be borne out, but I don’t think the nail’s in the coffin yet. I think Setsuki and Arg still benefit a lot from being relatively easy to play for their power level in the meta - very similarly to Zane and Troq in 20XX. So there may be answers to Setsuki “at character select”, but they’re not as easy to play (or specifically play against Setsuki), and so she still enjoys a significant advantage in the meta.

…or I’m wrong and she’s busted because Troq/Geiger aren’t available to CP her. shrugs Right now I still narrowly feel like it’s the former rather than the latter.

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Yeah, I’ve been trying to run numbers to figure out what’s subset of the cast gives you a relatively even spread from best to worst (and other variations on balance… I’m not yet happy on the math for that, yet).

It would be interesting to run the numbers based on matches divided by years, and see how the meta has changed… I’ll have to give that a try and report back.

Also, do you know of other tournaments that are in the standard full-cast counterpick format? That isn’t a field in your spreadsheet, so I had to filter based on my own rather limited knowledge.

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All of the fast timer events (NFTT and Slippery Spag) are full-cast, standard CP. Hmm. The rest would be case by case.

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Yeah, I have NFTT in the data already. I’ll add Slippery Spag.

Also, is Topanda a full-cast counterpick tournament? I know it had limited entrants, but the data should still be useful.