@FrozenStorm sure thing, here is my turn one. Since this is more casual, what makes you think it’s P2 favoured? I was thinking perhaps White tempo and Anarchy pressure could be dangerous but I still think as P1 I should be able to keep that in check until the illusions can give me the economy advantage
P1T1
StartingHand Workers
STARTING HAND
Jail
Manufactured Truth
Porkhand Magistrate
Bluecoat Musketeer
Building Inspector
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
NextHand
Reputable Newsman
Spectral Aven
Traffic Director
Lawful Search
Arrest
Discard
Jail
Bluecoat Musketeer
Manufactured Truth
Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
BI - ($2)
Quince - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader:
-
Elite: L1 Quince(1+1/3)
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Building Inspector(1/1)
- Mirror(0/1)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
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It’s true that White P2 is generally weak and that Blue v White, starter-wise, is fairly even.
But I feel like Zane is an S-tier hero to draw in this format, and I feel like intelligent play around Zane early should be able to blow up Truth and never let it get going. I think Anarchy T3 is the win con to play for here and Anarchy T2 is less prone to “stealing” like Glorious Ninja is. But we shall see! GL HF, editing my turn in shortly…
@dwarddd if flagrant doesn’t want to run it back would you start a casual thread for me to take a stab at the p2 side of this matchup? My gut would have told me just looking at the two decks that p2 was favored so I want to try it out to see where my gut might be off
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 1
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Aged Sensei
Smoker
Morningstar Flagbearer
Fox Viper
Fox Primus
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (5)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Main:
- Setsuki (3)
- Smoker (2)
- Aged Sensei (1)
- Worker (0)
Workers
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 Draw 4
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Sets (1/3+1armor)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: Smoker (1/1)
-
Technician: Aged Sensei (1/1)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Sensei’s Advice
Savior Monk
Snapback
Grappling Hook
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Hero should be safe to anything except Aven + MTruth, which would be unfortunate but not catastrophic. I think I can get to Anarchy T2 and slug it out for T3 leaning mostly on Zane.
Fortunate I got Smoker + AS here, that’s perfect for what I want to do
P2 looks to require more trickery. My thoughts were that making use of Hidden Ninja, supported later by Monkeys, or Void Stars + Xenostalkers, might let P2 knock down the base before Truth II gets going, but with a Blue vs. White start I don’t know whether that could get going quickly enough.
With Hook, Zane Shove, Shuriken Hail and Unphase, I think I have enough targeting to keep Truth T2 from easily stabilizing, but maybe that’s too much Black v Blue experience biasing my measure of how weak / strong Truth is away from black
I also have GPT for Aven which will be a big help. White’s only early anti-air is Primus and she’s not super cost effective, especially as a P2 blocker. The 3hp for 2g on GPT makes a big difference
Yeah, the trick will be to apply enough early pressure that P1 needs to put their illusions in patrol, instead of safely on the backline.
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Or snipe the backline mirrors with smoker XD
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You can snipe my mirror if you like, but will you?
P1T2
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Argonaut
Spectral Hound
STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Spectral Aven
Reputable Newsman
Arrest
Traffic Director
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
NextHand
Lawful Search
Bluecoat Musketeer
Argonaut
Spectral Hound
Jail
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Tech 1 - ($2)
Reputable Newsman, blocks 0 cost - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Reputable Newsman(0/3a) blocking 0 cost spells & upgrades
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: Mirror(0/1)
-
Technician: Building Inspector(1/1)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
-
Tech I HP: 5
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
Thoughts
hate to be predictable but this time round I’m going for the same tech, argonaut because I’m scared and it’s great in defence and hound because I’m still backing the illusions as a viable route to win
Had a bit of a dilemma here over whether to patrol the mirror or not, by patrolling the mirror i do give them more choices, but any route to kill it either means expensive tech 1 or no tech 1
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
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XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 2
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Sensei’s Advice
Savior Monk
Snapback
Grappling Hook
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (6)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
- Savior Monk (4)
- Tech 1, paying multicolor + BI tax (1)
- Smoker kills mirror, you get 1g
- AS and Sets put a point on Newsman after armor
- Worker (0)
Workers
Grappling Hook, Fox Viper
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 Draw 1 rs Draw 3
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
- Tech1 HP: 5
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader:
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout: Savior Monk (2/2)
In Play:
- Smoker (1/1)
- Setsuki Hiruki (1/3 lvl 1)
- Aged Sensei (1/1)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Safe Attacking
Sensei’s Advice
Snapback
Gunpoint Taxman
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Hoping I spook dwarddd into building a tower here (like I’m teching Hidden Ninja) but I’m actually going to worker the Hook (newsman’s gonna make it hard to use early) and tech shuriken hail for the possible flagbearer/hounds. It’ll be expensive to kill Sets almost certainly (arrest + hound + Mtruth + attack tax?) so I think she’s fine tag teaming newsman w/ AS and everybody chills backline. Arrest would suck, maybe I should go Lookout instead of SQL? …yeaaah, I guess so. Wish I had Safe Attacking to just kill the BI, but maybe it’s for the best I don’t give a card away
P1T3
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Reteller of Truths
Spectral Tiger
STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Jail
Spectral Hound
Bluecoat Musketeer
Argonaut
Arrest
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Jail
NextHand
Building Inspector(1/1)
Spectral Hound(3/3a)
Manufactured Truth
Spectral Aven
Arrest
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + scav - ($7)
Lawfully search your hand, then draw (please check your deck/discard situation i think you just didnt update what you posted, idm that but just to make sure) - ($6) - edit oops I got this order mixed up in my head but made no difference I wasn’t exactly going to look at your empty discard
realise this is one of those times where casting lawful search let you figure out that the best play needed the one gold u spent on lawful search
Argonaut - ($3)
quince and BI kill Monk
midband Quince - ($1)
Worker - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Argonaut(3/4a) readiness
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- L3 Quince(1/4)
- Reputable Newsman(0/2) blocking 0 cost spells & upgrades
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
-
Tech I HP: 5
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
Thoughts
right so i can see up to 6 dmg coming, another possibility is to ditch Sets and get a Zane but I’d be surprised as either I get the levels or Quince’s levels are wasted when Setsuki dies and even if they pop hound with Zane’s maxband i’ve already got value by killing Setsuki
this is annoying, if i kill monk with Quince and BI, then either i midband Quince and can’t afford both tech 1s or i leave quince and give away two levels and the ability to cast manufactured truth and tech up next turn
if I don’t kill him then they have 3 more dmg next turn
if i arrest him to kill both 1/1s then I’ve cast an inefficient Arrest that’ll come back to bite me in two turns
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
Yep the RS was 4/3/0, I’ve corrected it now
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 3
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Safe Attacking
Sensei’s Advice
Snapback
Gunpoint Taxman
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (7)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Disguised Monkey, Surprise Attack
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
- Gunpoint Taxman (5)
- Smoker puts another on Newsman
- Worker (4)
- Tech2 Anarchy (0)
Workers
Safe Attacking, Grappling Hook, Fox Viper
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 Draw 3 rs Draw 1
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Gunpoint Taxman (3/3+1armor)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: Aged Sensei (1/1)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Smoker (1/1)
- Setsuki Hiruki (1/3 lvl 1)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Shuriken Hail
Morningstar Flagbearer
Fox Primus
Snapback
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Well Lawful Search sniffed out no Hidden Ninja but hasn’t seen my shuriken yet… So that’s cool. I’m still staying parity or ahead on board and thus am free to tech up fairly safely. Without much haste (yet) for dwardd I feel okay going Sharks instead of Steam Tank (which is pretty vulnerable to Arrest anyway) and fighting right away on T2, rather than trying a fast T3 stall. Sharks and A Monkey counter mirrors and other things nicely so we do that. Immortals would be troublesome but I think we can avoid them fairly well (or just get to tech 3 before they can mess me up)
Crunch time, whatcha got?
P1T4
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Spectral Tiger
Reteller of Truths
STARTING HAND
Manufactured Truth
Spectral Aven
Building Inspector(1/1)
Arrest
Spectral Hound(3/3a)
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Jail
Building Inspector(1/1)
NextHand
Lawful Search
Reteller of Truths
Bluecoat Musketeer
Spectral Tiger
Discard
Reputable Newsman(0/1) blocking 0 cost spells & upgrades
Manufactured Truth
Arrest
Spectral Aven
Spectral Tiger
Reteller of Truths
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Tech 2 Truth - ($2)
Manufactured Truth Newsman so he and argo can kill your taxman - ($1)
Spectral Hound - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Argonaut(3/1a) readiness
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: L3 Quince(1/4)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
-
Tech I HP: 5
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
Thoughts
i would be very surprised to have no tech 2 next turn
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
Captain Insano is on deck XD
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 4
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Shuriken Hail
Morningstar Flagbearer
Fox Primus
Snapback
Surprise Attack (zane shove, dangg)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (8)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Steam Tank, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Surprise Attack
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
-
Zane + Instamax, shove Argo to scav, we both get 1g (2)
- Zane kills Quince, takes 1, we both draw 1, Sets to level 3
-
Midband Sets, buff with AS, kills Hound swiftly (1)
- Smoker pings your tech2
- Worker (0)
Workers
Safe Attacking, Grappling Hook, Fox Viper
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 4 Draw 3 rs Draw 2
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader:
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Zane (4/3 lvl 6)
- Smoker (1/1)
- Setsuki Hiruki (2/3 lvl 4)
- Aged Sensei (1/1)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Sensei’s Advice
Disguised Monkey
Savior Monk
Surprise Attack
Steam Tank
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Good patrol to bring Zane to the party. Good chance this buys me the space to go to tech 3 so I’ll grab a steam tank and gunship now, might be next turn is Monkey to break the tech 2 with smoker, then tech up, and that’s almost certainly a win, and if not we can always do max sets and sharks things.
P1T5
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Free Speech
Macciatus, The Whisperer
STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Spectral Tiger
Bluecoat Musketeer
Reteller of Truths
Manufactured Truth
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Jail
Building Inspector(1/1)
Bluecoat Musketeer
NextHand
Reteller of Truths
Reputable Newsman(0/1) blocking 0 cost spells & upgrades
Spectral Tiger
Arrest
Discard
Spectral Hound(3/3a)
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Free Speech
Macciatus, The Whisperer
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + scav, tech draw - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Reteller - ($6)
Tiger - ($3)
Tower - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Spectral Tiger(5/5a)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout: Reteller of Truths(3/3) first two units to die go to my hand
In Play:
*
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 4 (Truth)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
Thoughts
hmm eyes of the chancellor would be ridiculously useful, apart from assimilate is a thing; the question is whether it’s benefits would let me win before assimilate comes round
the other option is to pair it with Free Speech/carrion curse
otherwise how do i stop his sleathy stuff tearing apart my precious macciatus & reteller? at least they both have enough atk to trade
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 5
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Sensei’s Advice
Disguised Monkey
Savior Monk
Surprise Attack
Steam Tank
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (9)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Disguised Monkey, Chaos Mirror
Steam Tank, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Surprise Attack
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
-
Surprise Attack, sharks trade with Tiger, Tiger back to your hand (4)
-
Maxband Sets, kill Reteller, back to your hand (2)
- Zane breaks your tower, your base to 18
-
Disguised Monkey, it and smoker break your tech2, your base to 16 (0)
- skip worker
Workers
Safe Attacking, Grappling Hook, Fox Viper
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 4 Draw 3 rs Draw 2
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader:
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout: Aged Sensei (1/1)
In Play:
- Zane (4/2 lvl 6)
- Smoker (1/1)
- Setsuki Hiruki (3/3 lvl 6)
- Disguised Monkey (3/3)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Gunpoint Taxman
Snapback
Morningstar Flagbearer
Pirate Gunship
Shuriken Hail
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Grabbing Chaos Mirror for that Tiger (juicy for stealin’ its atk) and another Monkey (I forget it has haste permanently but that’s okay).
I’m going to leave Aged Sensei in patrol, but now I can option select my last techs next turn to either FDS or Gunship, and I have total command + that Tiger and Reteller off cycle. This is certainly winning position right?
P1T6
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Ready or Not
Ready or Not
STARTING HAND
Reputable Newsman(0/1) blocking 0 cost spells & upgrades
Arrest
Spectral Tiger
Reteller of Truths
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Jail
Building Inspector(1/1)
Bluecoat Musketeer
Arrest
NextHand
Argonaut(3/1a) readiness
Spectral Hound(3/3a)
Spectral Aven
Reteller of Truths
Lawful Search
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid, start rebuliding - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Tower - ($5)
Reputable Newsman, blocks 1 cost - ($3)
Quince - ($1)
Float ($1)
Discard 4, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Mirror(0/1a)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: Quince(1/3)
-
Technician: Reputable Newsman(0/3) 1 cost
-
Lookout:
In Play:
*
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 16
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 6
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Gunpoint Taxman
Snapback
Morningstar Flagbearer
Pirate Gunship
Shuriken Hail
Gunship + Sadv (rs Sets draw)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (9)
- Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
- rs Draw 2 for sets max
All Teched Cards
Fox’s Den Students, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Chaos Mirror
Steam Tank, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Surprise Attack
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
- Monkey kills SQL, takes 1 from tower
- Zane kills Newsman, takes 1 from tower, we both draw
-
Snapback Quince for Geiger (6)
- Steam Tank (3)
- Gunpoint Taxman (1)
- Setsuki gets an AS buff to break the tower again, your base to 14
- Worker (0)
Workers
Morningstar Flagbearer, Fox Primus, Safe Attacking, Grappling Hook, Fox Viper
-
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 4 Draw 5
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 20
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Gunpoint Taxman (3/3+1armor)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout: Steam Tank (3/6)
In Play:
- Zane (4/1 lvl 6)
- Smoker (1/1)
- Setsuki Hiruki (3/3 lvl 6)
- Disguised Monkey (3/2)
- Aged Sensei (1/1)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
End of Turn Hand
Chaos Mirror
Fox’s Den Students
Disguised Monkey
Surprise Attack
Savior Monk
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Teching the other Gunship and FDS, let’s see how the RS goes!
…
Eh, other gunship. No FDS, no Mirror, no Sharks. Bummer.
Well let’s see what I can get with Zane killing the Newsman (who’s being a pill with the 1-cost blocking, good guess dwarddd).
…
Steam Tank? Well I could press for tech2 again but I’m drawing into the Chaos Mirror and sharks, so I think I can handle whatever tech 2 stuff. But I’ll break the tower again to make things easy on my ninjas, that’s just good value, and keeping Quince away to avoid any potential Free Speech is always a plus. So we’ll do that.
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P1T7
StartingHand Workers
STARTING HAND
Argonaut(3/1a) readiness
Spectral Aven
Spectral Hound(3/3a)
Reteller of Truths
Lawful Search
Ready or Not
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Jail
Building Inspector(1/1)
Bluecoat Musketeer
Arrest
NextHand
Ready or Not
Spectral Tiger(5/5a)
Free Speech
Manufactured Truth
Macciatus, The Whisperer
Discard
Reputable Newsman(0/3) 1 cost
Spectral Aven
Lawful Search
Ready or Not
Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + float, tech draw - ($11)
Reteller - ($9)
Spectral Hound - ($8)
Argonaut - ($5)
Tower! - ($2)
Float ($2)
Discard 3, draw 5
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Spectral Hound(3/3a)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger: L1 Max Geiger(2/3)
-
Technician: Argonaut(3/4) readiness
-
Lookout: Reteller of Truths(3/3)
In Play:
*
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 14
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)
Economy Info:
Cards:
Gold:
Thoughts
Ready or Not would literally only get one monkey and the sensei
@FrozenStorm’s turn!
XCAPS21 CASUAL: Player 2, Turn 7
P2 [Ninja]/Anarchy/Future vs P1 [Truth]/Disease/Present
Starting Hand
Chaos Mirror
Fox’s Den Students
Disguised Monkey
Surprise Attack
Savior Monk
Shuriken Hail x2 (sets)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (10+1float)
- Elect to Tech 1 card in
- rs Draw 2 for sets max
All Teched Cards
Shuriken Hail
Fox’s Den Students, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Chaos Mirror
Steam Tank, Pirate Gunship
Disguised Monkey, Surprise Attack
Shuriken Hail, Gunpoint Taxman
Main:
-
Shuriken Hail, 1 to each patroller, untargeted can’t believe I forgot that doesn’t target… (9)
-
Shuriken Hail again, some stuff is getting low… (8)
-
Fox’s Den Students, 1 ninjalino hits Hound to use up tower, then 1 kills Reteller back to your hand, then last 2 kill SQL and Geiger, levels fizzle, you get 1g (4)
-
Disguised Monkey fresh, it and smoker take down the tower, your base to 12 (2)
-
GPT trades Argo, steal your gold, you get a card (3)
- Zane 4, Steam Tank 7, Sets 3, existing Monkey 3, and AS 1 deal 18 to your base, GG WP!
Lucky I got the double one drop T1 and you didn’t go Aven, and I’m embarrassed I thought Shuriken hail targeted, I definitely would have gone with Hidden Ninja in hindsight had I figured that out!
GG! Wasnt expecting to quite die this turn but knew it coming lol
Yeah the pressure was really on quick! I didn’t have aven in my starting hand and i didnt think it was worth it when GPT was surely coming soon
I went for the reteller because i thought you’d be wiping my board frequently and it might punish that but idk if it was the right choice with your stealthy stuff
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I think you recognized the need for a tower a little too late. Especially if I’d have had that Hidden Ninja earlier, it would have been even worse around the second re-shuffle. I agree Aven wasn’t worth it at the point you drew it.
Would you like to run it back?