[CAMS21] Round4: P1 bansa [Finesse]/Discipline/Strength vs P2 bolyarich [Demonology/Necromancy]/Finesse

@bansa btw, i think we are not in rush, so if you want the thuth and have some questions, we should check it! Would be very bad to have problems and ingame-rules-mistakes during such cool tournament

i teched 1 and 1 gone from the grave[Baron is second teched card]!

I think we are talking about different things. Iā€™m not saying your deteriorate or baron is misplaced. After your discard/draw in T3, your discard was 0. At the start of your T4, your discard is 2 from 2 newly teched cards. During T4 you played nether and deter, your discard to 4. Then you discarded 2 and reshuffled 6 and drew 1 at the end of T4 during discard/draw. So you should have deck of 5 cards not 4, right? Hope Iā€™m not crazy. I could be missing something and totally saying something stupid tho @FrozenStorm Can you take a look and let us know?

Card count is also off in T4 and T5. T4 2 workers + 4 decks + 4 hands + 5 in play. Missing one. Same in T5 one short.

i teched 2 cards on T4(Baron, unknown card), discard 2.
played 2 cards (discard 4)
took Baron(discard 3)
Discard 2, reshuffle 2+3 =5, draw 1, so 4 cards in deck all ok, no?

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big oops i was thinking garth summons from codex not discardā€¦ my bad :blush: all goodā€¦ sorry about that

its ok. Great to know that not only me who read card counts. In neighboor topic i missed a bounce thing in kind of same situation, like, playing 3 cards + workerā€¦ and discard 2 rs draw 4, while 1 card was bounced into hand in the previous turn

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Yea, as you can tell, I donā€™t do much black. I was screening previous turns and thought count was off thinking baron was from codex. :dizzy_face:

P1T6


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Two Step
Mind-Parry Monk


STARTING HAND
Timely Messenger
Wither
Discord
Birdā€™s Nest
Mind-Parry Monk


WORKERS
Older Brother
Fruit Ninja
Spark
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Mind-Parry Monk


NextHand

Nimble Fencer
Martial Mastery
Discord


Discard

Tenderfoot
Brick Thief
Wither
Discord
Two Step
Mind-Parry Monk


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + scav + t draw - ($9)
Rook - ($7)
Birdā€™s Nest - ($5)
Timely Messenger - ($4)
Wither Baron - ($2)
Worker - ($1)
Rebuild Tech II

Float ($1)
Discard 1, draw 3


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Timely Messenger (1/1A)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Bird (1/1)
  • :pschip: Technician: L1 Rook (2/4)
  • :target: Lookout: Bird (1/1), resist 1

In Play:

  • Birdā€™s Nest

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 16
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Discipline)
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 6

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

of course he draws deteriorateā€¦ so i confirmed 27.8% chance fencer and doom grasp in t3ā€¦ he reshuffles 5 and draws 2 in t4 and hits both nether and starletā€¦ 10% chanceā€¦ he draws newly teched card again in t5ā€¦ 20% or 40% lichs bargainā€¦ and then it appears that he drew 1/4 deteriorateā€¦ this is some impressive drawsā€¦ i mean he canā€™t do this forever rightā€¦ so i keep dragging it outā€¦ he should run out of steam soonā€¦

P2T6


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Nimble Fencer
Appel Stomp


STARTING HAND
Summon Skeletons
Poisonblade Rogue
Nether Drain
Doom Grasp
Lichā€™s Bargain
Deteriorate


WORKERS


NextHand

Death Rites
Lichā€™s Bargain
Jav(1/1), rune
Thieving Imp
haunt


Discard

Nimble Fencer
Appel Stomp
Lichā€™s Bargain
Deteriorate
Nether Drain
Baron(3/1), -1/-1, overpower
Summon Skeletons
Poisonblade Rogue
Doom Grasp


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Garth makes and eats skeleton - ($5)
Lichā€™s Bargain, eat last card worker, base to 12(20 - 4 - 4) - ($3)
Garth eats skeleton, i really need removal
You would be angry :frowning: [tbh, i had this card before redrawing - you may see it in the deleted post after the game]
Vandy - ($1)
Nether Drain Garth into Vandy - ($0)
Deter bird scav
Baron Suicides in SQL
Horror kills Rook, dies, Vandy maxes, DoomNF(canā€™t doom your bird)
NF destroy your tower, you base to 14
Garth attack your base, your base to 12

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Horror(3/3)A, deathtouch
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Zombie(2/2)
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Nimble Fencer(4/3), +2/+2, doomed
  • Garth(2/3) lvl5
  • Vandy(4/5), maxlevel

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 12
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Heroesā€™ Hall HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 9

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5
Thoughts

I need 3 gold for my turn, so i can draw. What do i want toi draw here? Deter - great; fencer - great; Bargain x2? seems bad but ā€¦ but cool. Imp? DR? leads to tricky turn or really bad draw. Jav? Jav is ok, excess card on the board. Haunt? kind of too. So 5 out of 10 is very good, 2 can fill, 3 are bad

drew LB. Forgot about max ability of vandy ā€“ (have to give +2/+2 to bird if enough gold to pick any creature, for example only 1 with resist without gold is ok)

He rs Bloom, also have sensei advices, so need to be carefull and have garth with 3+ hp

@bansaā€™s turn!

P1T7


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Two Step
Star-Crossed Starlet


STARTING HAND
Nimble Fencer
Discord
Martial Mastery
Bloom
Helpful Turtle
Martial Mastery
Training Grounds
Wither


WORKERS
Older Brother
Fruit Ninja
Spark
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Mind-Parry Monk


NextHand

Helpful Turtle
Timely Messenger


Discard

Martial Mastery
Wither
Bloom


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float + scav + t draw - ($11)
Grave - ($9)
Martial Mastery, discard 1, draw 2, look at hand - ($8)
Martial Mastery, discard 1, draw 1, rs, draw 1, look at hand - ($7)
Wither Garth - ($5)
Bloom Bird kills Garth, Grave to L3 - ($3)
Training Grounds - ($2)
Nimble Fencer - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 0, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite: Nimble Fencer (3/3)
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: L3 Grave (4/4), +1/0
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Bird (2/2), (+)
  • Training Grounds (4)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 12
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Discipline)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 10
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

of course,ā€¦ why not draw 1?2?/10 lb and 1/9 deter?.. i mean isnā€™t back to back to back deteriorate what we all dream about?.. this is just getting absolutely ridiculousā€¦ lolā€¦

P2T7


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Metamorphosis
Metamorphosis


STARTING HAND
Death Rites
Lichā€™s Bargain
Jav(1/1), rune
haunt
Thieving Imp


WORKERS


NextHand

Graveyard3hp[haunt, Star-Crossed Starlet]
Sacrifice the Weak
Metamorphosis
Starlet
Deteriorate


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
River - ($3)
Vendi fetches soul stone and put it on horror - ($0)
Horror kills Grave, River lvl3
Soul stone goes to discard
Haunt

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 3, reshuffle, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: River(2/4)A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Zombie(2/2)
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Horror(3/3)
  • Haunt(1/1)
  • Vandy(4/5), maxlevel

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 12
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Heroesā€™ Hall HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 15
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5
Thoughts

need to kill Grave

@bansaā€™s turn!

P1T8


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Appel Stomp
Appel Stomp


STARTING HAND
Helpful Turtle
Timely Messenger
Discord


WORKERS
Older Brother
Fruit Ninja
Spark
Granfalloon Flagbearer
Mind-Parry Monk


NextHand

Two Step
Brick Thief
Birdā€™s Nest
Star-Crossed Starlet


Discard

Martial Mastery
Wither
Bloom
Discord
Helpful Turtle
Timely Messenger
Appel Stomp
Appel Stomp


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + t draw - ($9)
River - ($7)
Rook - ($5)
Training Ground maxes Rook
Discord kills Haunt - ($3)
Bird kills Horror
Tower - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: L8 Rook (5/6A), +1/0
  • :psfist: Elite: Nimble Fencer (3/3)
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: L1 River (3/3), +1/0
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Bird (2/2), (+)
  • Training Grounds (4)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 12
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Discipline)
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 5
  • Disc: 8

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

so why is he saying im angryā€¦ i didnt say anthying in public? how does he even know? like he is reading into my thoughts? and why is he reacting to deteriorate when i wasnā€™t even talking about thatā€¦ weird that he is overly defensiveā€¦ oddly frequent comments about his draw makes me uneasy as wellā€¦ sounds like he is trying to justify his drawsā€¦

this is just too much emotional stressā€¦ gonna be my last tourney until some sort of online game engine thing is figured outā€¦

so meta is all he has got leftā€¦ 2/17 but probability doesnt mean anything hereā€¦he drew nothing but gold whole gameā€¦ not a surprise if he draws whatever he wantsā€¦

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gg. @FrozenStorm

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you went too low on gold mate, to the point that you couldnā€™t even fetch and play meta. Just my 2 cents, going all out like that is worthwhile if youā€™ve got the means to ends things quickly, doing it like you did can easily backfire.

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