I could understand some ambiguity if Onimaru gained armor from Aged Sensei and The Art of War before taking 1 damage from a Tower (although I’d expect the active player should be able to decide to soak the damage with the shorter-duration armor), but saying Onimaru loses one of the points of armor from The Art of War from damage suffered before the spell is even cast makes no sense to me whatsoever. Where are you getting this from?
It came up on the Discourse channel last Thursday (@Shadow_Night_Black and @Hobusu, I think?). The reasoning was that armour goes into a common pool, so temporary armour effects work by implicitly adding a later effect that removes the same amount of armour as they originally added – they can’t remove the armour they specifically added, because they can’t find it. Similarly, in the case where you cast Art of War before attacking, you don’t choose which point of armour is pinged.
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Oh, I see. So, you’re thinking the Kidnapping could work the same way, with some implicit “give control to player X” effect triggering at end of turn that would override Ogre Recruiter’s effect, huh? I dunno, could be. @sharpobject?
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Wait, so you’re saying that if I cast elite training on a unit, and use sensei’s advice on it, then it takes one damage, it will have no armour on the opponent’s turn?
Yes. 10charspleaseLars
… I don’t like that
Yeah, I think if I were to design the armor mechanic, I’d track 2 values, current armor and maximum armor (similar to current and maximum health). When an effect grants X armor, it would increase both values by X. Damage would reduce the current armor. Effects wearing off would reduce the maximum armor, but if the maximum ever dropped below the current, then the current would be set to the maximum. This might sound more complex to explain, but I think the behavior would be more intuitive.
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guys, a question about overpower+ death touch. If a unit as 2atk and death touch, and attacks something that has 3 hp, overpower doesn’t activate, right?
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This has come up a few times, I think, e.g. here. Overpower doesn’t account for deathtouch when determining lethal damage, so no, it wouldn’t activate.
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that was my reasoning too. tyvm
Can you overpower past a patroller that Sparkshot kills? E.g., P1 has a 3/3 Overpower Sparkshot, P2 has two 1/1s in Scavenger and Technician. P1 attacks one patroller, sparkshotting the other, killing both. Can P1 deal the 2 excess attack damage to P2’s base, or does it have to go to the other patroller?
You only get to ignore the original attack target when picking “something else this could attack” for overpower.
(Note that Obliterate happens before combat damage, and could get rid of other patrollers if you used Blooming Elm or some such to give an Obliterating unit Overpower)
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Hi.
I’m new to the game and I’m trying to understand something about the Lookout paroling zone.
I understand that you have to pay 1 gold in order to target that patroller… but do you need to target it first, or you can just target anything the card indicate? In other word, does it work like the the «squad leader» but for target spell or abilities?
(sorry for my english)
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The Lookout doesn’t force you to target the patroller in it, for that you want a Flagbearer. But if you put a Flagbearer in the Lookout, your opponent might spend just enough gold to not be able to afford the $1 extra for resist, and then they could ignore that Flagbearer because they can’t afford to target it.
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So, just to clarify, it reads as if you are saying in this case the Overpower damage would go to the second patroller. Either before or simultaneously as the Sparkshot effect.
simultaneously, all combat dmg happens at once, unless swift strike is involved.
I can’t believe this hasn’t been asked before, but search is coming up empty –
Reversal says: “Deal 3 damage to a patroller, then disable it. (Exhaust it and it doesn’t ready during its next ready step. Sideline it if it was patrolling.)”
If Reversal kills a patroller in Scavenger/Technician, do they still give the gold/card from the patrol bonus? I think they do, with the check for lethal damage happening at the comma, but wanted to check.
Reversal kills them and grants the patrol bonus. If they survive reversal, then they are sidelined.
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So, interesting situation… Death and Decay gives -3/-3 to a Spectral Flagbearer, Reteller of Truths, and Macciatus, the Whisperer. At the time of casting, their stats are 3/3, 4/4, and 3/3 respectively, but when Macciatus dies and Reteller loses the +1/+1 bonus, it also dies. The question is, are the Flagbearer and the Reteller considered to die at the same time, or is the Flagbearer considered to die first? @sharpobject?