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[BALANCE TESTING] FrozenStorm (Black + Vandy Ban) vs NekoAtl (Blue)

That’s a tough call. It can really go either way at this stage, though I suspect the gold would be worth more on average. I figure the determining factors are how many Drill Sergeants are currently in play, and how many cheap units are coming up in the cycle. In this case, though, I didn’t end up using either.

P1T8


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Spectral Hound
Spectral Hound


STARTING HAND
Free Speech
Arrest
Traffic Director
Elite Training
Injunction
Elite Training
Reputable Newsman


WORKERS
Jail
Porkhand Magistrate
Spectral Aven
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Building Inspector
Reputable Newsman


NextHand

Arrest
Bluecoat Musketeer
Elite Training
Drill Sergeant
Injunction


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + Scavenger - ($12)
Sirus Quince - ($10)
Free Speech - ($8)
Bigby Hayes - ($6)
Injunction, tech II disabled - ($3)
Traffic Director - ($2)
Worker - ($1)
Cadets and Scribe trade with Garth, levels to Bigby
Drill Sergeant breaks Tech I

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Traffic Director (1/1) Untargetable
  • :pschip: Technician: Mirror Illusion (0/1)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Flagstone Garrison (4)
  • Flagstone Garrison (4)
  • L3 Bigby Hayes (2/4)
  • L1 Sirus Quince (1/3)
  • Drill Sergeant (7/7) [4+]

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Peace)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 8
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 11

Thoughts

As long as I can maintain access to my spells, I think I’ve got this in the bag. That being the case, I’ll prioritize levelling Bigby in case an emergency draw becomes necessary.

Not that it matters, but NekoAtl could have done lethal there with a modified line of:

12 gold (12)
Quince (10)
Arrest (8)
Move a rune, Cadets trade for Garth, Quince to L3
Make mirror a copy of Drill Sergeant (6)
Traffic Director (5) [4 runes]
Reputable Newsman (3) [6 runes] (reshuffle, but that doesn’t end up mattering)
Play Bluecoat Musketeer (1) [8 runes]
Attack with 11 power Drill Sergeant
Move runes and attack with 9 power Scribe

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Yea I gotta scoop either way, GG WP @Nekoatl! Really tough for me to apply enough pressure to keep away Garrisons, I’ll need to get more creative next game

Yeah, I tend to focus on gradually building pressure and often overlook opportunities for a sudden kill… it’s one of my weaknesses as a player.

GG WP. Serendipity definitely worked in my favor that game, especially with that Lawful Search that I didn’t even want to play. Standard Blue vs. Black has trained me to scrimp and save every gold possible, and it’s a big adjustment to be able to splurge on cards like Scribe and Search, and actually succeed. I’m starting to wonder if the nerfs went too far, and it’s just taking time for me to get used to my expanded options in order to capitalize on that. I guess we’ll have to see how the remaining games play out. You’ve piqued my curiosity as to what you’re planning. GL HF!

P1T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Building Inspector
Traffic Director
Porkhand Magistrate


WORKERS
Jail


NextHand

Manufactured Truth
Building Inspector
Spectral Aven
Lawful Search
Arrest


Discard

Bluecoat Musketeer
Porkhand Magistrate


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
Bigby Hayes - ($1)
Traffic Director - ($0)

Float ($0)
Stash 1, Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Traffic Director (1/1) Untargetable
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • L1 Bigby Hayes (2/3)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 2

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5

Thoughts

Wow, this is an exceptionally strong opening hand, and I have many available options to choose from. Lawful Search in my deck means I can stash a card and still have access to all cards currently in my deck next turn, so I think I’ll float the Inspector to interfere with his Tech I and deploy the Director for additional pressure, backed by Manufactured Truth. If I end up not needing Lawful Search, I might float it to T3 because it hugely helped me last game, and with the balance changes I’m not so pressured that I can’t afford the occasional $1 for recon.

Oh man, I hate to disappoint but I don’t really feel like I have a great plan here!

Also don’t think I don’t notice you stashing :wink: Politifact is calling BS on your Manufactured “Truth”

Set 3, Game 7, Player 2, Turn 1

P2 Black w/ Demon Taxes vs P1 Blue

Starting Hand

Sacrifice the Weak
Poisonblade Rogue
Pestering Haunt
Jandra, the Negator
Graveyard

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (5)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Main:

  • Pestering Haunt (4)
  • Vandy (2)
  • Worker (1)
Workers

Poisonblade Rogue

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 3 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Vandy (2/3+1armor lvl 1)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 6

End of Turn Hand

Thieving Imp
Deteriorate
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Well I spose if Neko’s going MT+Porky that’s manageable… I want Vandy out, lets do that. Next turn Imp + Jav + Tech 1 maybe?

Good eye… and yet you still put Vandy front and center as cannon fodder… interesting. Also, Politifact is pure conspiracy theory propaganda that the good citizens of Flagstone are thoroughly protected from. All is as we say it is, and no dishonest news reporting shall be permitted!

P1T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Brave Knight
Spectral Flagbearer


STARTING HAND
Building Inspector
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Arrest
Spectral Aven


WORKERS
Jail


NextHand

Reputable Newsman
Brave Knight
Bluecoat Musketeer
Lawful Search


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Spectral Aven - ($2)
Manufactured Truth, Director was really an Aven (to no one’s surprise)! - ($1)
Building Inspector - ($0)
“Aven” and Bigby kill Vandy

Float ($0)
Stash 1, Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Building Inspector (1/1A) $1 tax
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Spectral Aven (2/2) Flying
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • L3 Bigby Hayes (2/4)
  • Traffic Director (1/1) Untargetable

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5

Thoughts

If he sees Manufactured Truth coming, why feed me Vandy? Probably he figures it’s not worth trying to protect a hero, but Orpal would inflict a -1/-1 rune or two on Bigby, or Garth could have created a Skeleton with that floating gold. Which suggests that he doesn’t want to be locked out of summoning Orpal or spend the $1 for a Skeleton… or that he’s trying to bait me into spending on the kill… and if he’s baiting me, it probably means he’s planning to follow up with Doom Grasp on Bigby, nullifying the levels I’d be paying to obtain. Newsman would be rather flimsy defense against that, as either StW or an Executioner could likely down him, and I can’t really circumvent that problem without utilizing another hero. Still, Doom Grasp is expensive, and I can make it difficult to kill Bigby with it, just not impossible. I’ll just try to apply as much pressure as possible, for the moment. Patrolling Aven as Scavenger to reduce the chances that I get both tech I units in hand next turn, since I’m delaying my Tech I.

I forgot about aven… thought porky was the only MTruth threat. Bad mistake on my part

Ah… I thought it was part of some cunning plan that you were trying to bluff about not having. Do you want to roll back and redo your turn?

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yes please :wink: busy day of work, i’ll edit in a bit

Okay let’s turn our brains on and try again here…

Set 3, Game 7, Player 2, Turn 1 REDUX

P2 Black w/ Demon Taxes vs P1 Blue

Starting Hand

Sacrifice the Weak
Poisonblade Rogue
Pestering Haunt
Jandra, the Negator
Graveyard

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (5)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Main:

  • Pestering Haunt (4)
  • Vandy + lvl 2 (1)
  • Worker (0)
Workers

Poisonblade Rogue

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 3 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite: Vandy (2+1/3 lvl 2)
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6

End of Turn Hand

Thieving Imp
Deteriorate
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Well I spose if Neko’s going MT+Porky that’s manageable… I want Vandy out, but I definitely can’t keep her safe. Putting her in elite allows a bigby maxband play, but that’s probably fine…? yea, let’s do that

P1T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Brave Knight
Spectral Flagbearer


STARTING HAND
Building Inspector
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Arrest
Spectral Aven


WORKERS
Jail
Spectral Aven


NextHand

Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman
Spectral Flagbearer


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Building Inspector - ($3)
Midband Bigby - ($1)
Bigby and Director kill Vandy
Tech I - ($0)

Float ($0)
Stash 1, Discard 2, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 3


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Building Inspector (1/1A) $1 tax
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • L5 Bigby Hayes (3/4)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6

Thoughts

Still playing Vandy, but now Bigby can’t safely attack without midbanding first, and Director’s 1 attack would be enouch to finish her. I’ll stash Lawful Search so Newsman can hopefully identify and block a spell he techs in next turn, and hopefully he’ll think I’m stashing Manufactured Truth. I’m really not sure which Tech I units I want, so I’ll split between Flagbearer to draw Shadow Blade / Doom Grasp and Brave Knight to fight Orpal / Plague Spitter. I could partol Inspector as Scavenger and guarantee a favorable trade, or go SQL and risk an even trade to Deteriorate for the chance of interfering with his building construction… I’m feeling ambitious, so I’ll go for it. Choosing to worker the Aven because I’ll have access to strictly better fliers later, whereas my starter spells all have irreplaceable value… hopefully the threat of the Aven will continue to provide value even while the card itself is gone.

Set 3, Game 7, Player 2, Turn 2

P2 Black w/ Demon Taxes vs P1 Blue

Starting Hand

Thieving Imp
Deteriorate
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (6)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Hooded Executioner, Lich’s Bargain


Main:

  • Garth (4)
  • Make a skeleton (3)
  • Deteriorate BI (2)
  • Pestering Haunt pings your tech1
  • Tech 1 (1)
  • Worker (0)
Workers

[spoiler]Hooded Executioner,

Thieving Imp, Poisonblade Rogue

[/spoiler]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 3 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Garth (1/3+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Skeleton (1/1)
  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7

End of Turn Hand

Summon Skeletons
Lich’s Bargain
Skeleton Javelineer
Hooded Executioner
Sacrifice the Weak

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

No idea what to tech here… going with LB and Hoodie, see if skeleton spam can work before Bigby can blow it up with judgment

P1T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Injunction
Scribe


STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman
Traffic Director
Porkhand Magistrate
Spectral Flagbearer
Arrest
Manufactured Truth


WORKERS
Jail
Spectral Aven
Traffic Director


NextHand

Bluecoat Musketeer
Lawful Search
Arrest
Brave Knight
Manufactured Truth


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Lawful Search your hand - ($5)
Reputable Newsman - ($3)
Bigby draws
Spectral Flagbearer - ($2)
Worker - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 3


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Spectral Flagbearer (2/2A) Tempting Target
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Reputable Newsman (0/3) $2 blocked
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • L5 Bigby Hayes (3/4)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 7

Thoughts

He has $7 to work with, $5 to execute Newsman, $2 for Bargain and he skips a worker, but that’s the most I can interfere. I’m gambling that he won’t topdeck Deteriorate off a Skeleton draw.

Set 3, Game 7, Player 2, Turn 3

P2 Black w/ Demon Taxes vs P1 Blue

Starting Hand

Summon Skeletons
Lich’s Bargain
Skeleton Javelineer
Hooded Executioner
Sacrifice the Weak

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (7)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Skeletal Lord, Dark Pact
Hooded Executioner, Lich’s Bargain


Main:

  • Hooded Executioner (5)
  • Make a skeleton (4)
  • Summon Skeletons (1)
  • Pestering Haunt pings your tech1 to 3hp
  • Worker (0)
Workers

[spoiler]Hooded Executioner,

Lich’s Bargain, Thieving Imp, Poisonblade Rogue

[/spoiler]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 4
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Hooded Executioner (3/3+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite: Skeleton (1+1/1)
  • :pspig: Scavenger: Skeleton (1/1)
  • :exhaust: Technician: Skeleton (1/1)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Skeleton (1/1)
  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)
  • Garth (1/3 lvl 1)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 5

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8

End of Turn Hand

Graveyard
Jandra, the Negator
Deteriorate
Skeletal Archery

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Fingers crossed no judgment day! I’m really asking for it…

P1T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Judgment Day
Scribe


STARTING HAND
Bluecoat Musketeer
Brave Knight
Arrest
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Scribe
Building Inspector
Injunction


WORKERS
Jail
Spectral Aven
Traffic Director
Bluecoat Musketeer


NextHand

Arrest
Porkhand Magistrate
Brave Knight
Scribe
Injunction


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Lawful Search your hand - ($7)
Bigby draws
Scribe - ($5)
Injunction - ($2)
Flagbearer kills Scavenger
Building Inspector - ($1)
Worker - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Scribe (1/3A)
  • :psfist: Elite: Reputable Newsman (1/3) $2 blocked
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Building Inspector (1/1) $1 tax
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • L5 Bigby Hayes (3/4)
  • Spectral Flagbearer (2/1) Tempting Target

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 3

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8

Thoughts

That’s a lot of Skeletons. Is he planning to drop a Skeletal Lord and immediately use its ability to drop a tech III unit? That’d be quite interesting, but I should try to cull their numbers before that can happen. Judgment Day can work as a last resort, but I’d prefer a less destructive method, if possible… not that I have any ideas for that. On the other hand, he might just be using them as cannon fodder to patrol. Well, for now I’ll prep for that possibility, and do some recon before planning the rest of my turn. Lawful Search reveals nothing of great interest, though I’d like to put a damage chit on my Flagbearer before that Deteriorate lands. It’d be nice if I could topdeck an Injunction and delay his Tech II, though that’s both ambitous and extravagant. Maybe better to just settle for Bigby’s midband or Arrest to expose the Skeletons. First, I should decide whether or not to ruleout Bigby’s midband, as I’ll otherwise use his maxband to draw. How concerned am I about a non-disabled Executioner attacking… enough to spend $2-$3 to prevent it? … Yeah, I think so.

Injunction, yuck! Sorry for the delay!

Set 3, Game 7, Player 2, Turn 4

P2 Black w/ Demon Taxes vs P1 Blue

Starting Hand

Graveyard
Jandra, the Negator
Deteriorate
Skeletal Archery

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (8)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Carrion Curse x2
Skeletal Lord, Dark Pact
Hooded Executioner, Lich’s Bargain


Main:

  • Pestering Haunt trades with Flagbearer
  • Deteriorate Scribe (7)
  • Three skeletons kill scribe
  • Garth kills BI, you get 1g
  • Graveyard (5)
  • Rebuild tech 1
  • Hero’s Hall (3)
  • Make a skeleton (2)
  • Worker (1)
Workers

Lich’s Bargain, Thieving Imp, Poisonblade Rogue

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 4
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger: Skeleton (1/1)
  • :exhaust: Technician: Skeleton (1/1)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Skeleton (1/1)
  • Skeleton (1/1)
  • Skeleton (1/1)
  • Hooded Executioner (3/3)
  • Garth (1/2 lvl 1)
  • Graveyard (3hp)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 6
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 9

End of Turn Hand

Dark Pact
Pestering Haunt
Carrion Curse

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Injunction, ugh… Well continuing to keep those fingers crossed! Grabbing some Carrion Curse in case Neko does Judge me poorly.

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