[MMM1] Warm-Up: Blue (Jadiel) vs Purple (HolyTispon)

holytispon · June 9, 2017, 7:52pm

I think the problem with this match-up is that I suck at this game

Jadiel · June 9, 2017, 7:59pm

You’re getting a lot better though

P1T6

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Boot Camp
Injunction

STARTING HAND
Insurance Agent
Justice Juggernaut
Judgement Day
Insurance Agent
Lawful Search
Community Service
Insurance Agent
Judgement Day

WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
Reputable Newsman
Bluecoat Musketeer
Building Inspector

NextHand

Spectral Aven
Traffic Director
Injunction
Insurance Agent

Discard

Lawful Search
Community Service
Judgement Day

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($12)
Insurance Agent #1, putting a rune on Argonaut - ($11)
Insurance Agent #2, putting a rune on Argonaut - ($10)
Bigby casts Judgement Day, you get 1g and a card, I get 6g and rs, draw 2 cards - ($12)
Bigby casts Lawful Search on your hand, I draw - ($11)
Bigby exhausts to draw
Justice Juggernaut - ($5)
Oni kills Prynn, Oni to L3
Brave Knight - ($2)
Insurance Agent, puts a rune on Brave Knight - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 2, draw 4

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Brave Knight (3/3A, Readiness, Insurance rune)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Insurance Agent (2/2)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
L5 Bigby (3/4)
L3 Oni (2/2)
Justice Juggernaut (4/6, Two Lives, Unstoppable)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Law)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 5
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 9

holytispon · June 9, 2017, 8:07pm

I’m pretty sure my Fargo and Plexus can’t do much to stop your unstoppable Juggernaut that has two lives. Shall we restart?

holytispon · June 9, 2017, 8:22pm

Ignore me. This hasn’t been my day.

Here we go.

"P1T1

StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Temporal Research
Time Spiral
Forgotten Fighter
Tinkerer
Nullcraft

WORKERS
Nullcraft

NextHand

Battle Suits
Fading Argonaut
Plasmodium
Hardened Mox
Neo Plexus

Discard

Temporal Research
Time Spiral
Forgotten Fighter

Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
Tinkerer - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: Tinkerer (1/2)
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 5
Deck: 0
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 5

Thoughts

not once in this match-up did I draw Mox on the first turn yet.

"

Jadiel · June 9, 2017, 9:04pm

GL, HF

P2T1

StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Building Inspector
Manufactured Truth
Spectral Aven
Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman

WORKERS
Spectral Aven

NextHand

Jail
Bluecoat Musketeer
Arrest
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director

Discard

Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman
Manufactured Truth

Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Oni - ($2)
Building Inspector - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: L1 Oni (2/3A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1)
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 5
Deck: 0
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 6

holytispon · June 10, 2017, 12:11am

You too!

"P1T2

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Seer
Knight of the Conclave

STARTING HAND
Battle Suits
Fading Argonaut
Hardened Mox
Plasmodium
Neo Plexus

WORKERS
Nullcraft
Hardened Mox

NextHand

Time Spiral
Knight of the Conclave
Fading Argonaut
Neo Plexus
Temporal Research

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Tech 1 + tax - ($3)
Plasmod - ($1)
Tinkerer removed a rune from plasmod

Float ($1)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Plasmodium, 2 runes forecasted
Tinkerer (1/2)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
tech I: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 5
Deck: 3
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 6

Thoughts

I considered patrolling but he keeps arresting my patrollers. He’s putting pressure with Oni so I’ll have to bring a hero soon but hopefully with plasmo next turn he won’t be able to patrol as he wants. He’s likely to kill the tinkerer but I have both seer and time spiral to remove the last rune from plasmod

"

Jadiel · June 10, 2017, 7:00am

P2T2

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Brave Knight
Elite Training

STARTING HAND
Porkhand Magistrate
Arrest
Traffic Director
Jail
Bluecoat Musketeer

WORKERS
Spectral Aven
Porkhand Magistrate

NextHand

Elite Training
Arrest
Brave Knight
Bluecoat Musketeer

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Jail - ($3)
Oni kills Tinkerer
Traffic Director - ($2)
Tech I - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1)
[I]Technician[/I]: Traffic Director (1/1)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
L1 Oni (2/2)
Jail (3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 3
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 7

Shadow_Night_Black · June 10, 2017, 1:29pm

You, me and Legion all have this problem, I think mox is cursed to never be in an opening hand (unless your P2).

holytispon · June 10, 2017, 3:21pm

"P1T3

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Knight of the Conclave
Seer

STARTING HAND
Neo Plexus
Knight of the Conclave
Fading Argonaut
Time Spiral
Temporal Research
Forgotten Fighter
Seer

WORKERS
Nullcraft
Hardened Mox

NextHand

Seer
Temporal Research
Time Spiral
Neo Plexus
Battle Suits

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($7)
Prynn - ($5)
Knight of the conclave
Temporal research, drawing 2 - ($3)
Forgotten Fighter, bounces your BI - ($1)
Time Spiral to remove the last rune off of the Plasmod - ($0)
Plasmod kills TD, you get a card

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 4

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: L1 Prynn, 4 runes, (1/3A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Plasmodium, (4/3 from 1 damage)
Knight of the Conclave, 3 runes
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 5
Deck: 5
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 6

Thoughts

Obviously skipping a worker is not ideal, but I’mp playing with KotC and Seers, so I hope I can keep up with a low econ for a little while. He’s putting on a lot of pressures and I have to keep Prynn alive, which explains the unfavorable trade of FF with TD - at least I prevented the Technician draw, and hopefully I can save Prynn for another turn and cycle through much of the deck with another temporal reserach, getting the seers and Knights out. Elite training on Oni would screw me.
Jail is a bit of an odd choice given the knights who don’t go there, but it does hurt my seers and I would have drawn three cards if I could play my Fargo as well. Spent my money in case Tax Collector shows up, and I’m expecting Brave Knights, Cadets or Hounds.

"

Jadiel · June 10, 2017, 4:17pm

TD is untargetable. You can kill TD and Bounce BI, but not the other way round.

holytispon · June 10, 2017, 4:26pm

Sorry, I thought he was only unstoppable when attacking buildings. I’ll do it the other way around, and you get the card instead of the gold.

Jadiel · June 10, 2017, 6:00pm

P2T3

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Spectral Hound
Spectral Hound

STARTING HAND
Brave Knight
Bluecoat Musketeer
Elite Training
Arrest
Manufactured Truth

WORKERS
Spectral Aven
Porkhand Magistrate
Building Inspector

NextHand

Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Traffic Director
Reputable Newsman

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Bluecoat Musketeer - ($5)
Oni casts Manufactured Truth on Musketeer, turning it into Plasmodium - ($4)
Manufactured Plasmodium kills Prynn, Oni to L3
Oni trades with Plasmodium
Brave Knight - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 2, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 2

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Brave Knight (3/3A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Bluecoat Musketeer (1/1)
Jail (3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 4
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 8

holytispon · June 10, 2017, 8:28pm

I’m just trying around all sorts of things. I thought I’d try Plasmod and KotC but neither seem like a great choice in this MU given MT. So… there I have it. Educational.

"P1T4

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Now!
Now!

STARTING HAND
Battle Suits
Neo Plexus
Time Spiral
Temporal Research
Seer

WORKERS
Nullcraft
Hardened Mox
Temporal Research

NextHand

Forgotten Fighter
Seer
Fading Argonaut
Tinkerer

Discard

Plasmodium
Battle Suits
Time Spiral
Now!
Now!

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Seer, goes to Jail - ($4)
Neo Plexus goes to jail and breaks Seer out, that arrives takes off a rune of the Knight - ($2)

Float ($2)
Discard 2, draw 4

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Seer (2/1)
Knight of the Conclave, 1 rune
Neo Plexus, in jail
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 1
Disc: 5
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 2
Workers: 7

Thoughts

So, manufactured truth found my Plasmodium. That’ a bummer and I clearly haven’t thought about it. I guess that’s a weakness of a T1 rush of Knights and Argos, but I don’t have much of a choice now because I don’t have much money, so I have to hang on. I’m not actually sure what to do, I couldn’t think of a way to get a hero in without getting it killed next turn and it didn’t seem worth it to pay 2, give him free levels only for temporal reserach or time spiral. I didn’t patrol the Seer because he can just arrest it which is the worst fate for a seer (I want to have it killed and reuse its ability), which is how he could also get rid of a hero if I brought one out. If he’s bringing out more Cadets and Knights, he’ll have plenty of efficient little guys and I need somehow to rise above that. Not sure that KotC is any good for that, so I may be toast already.

"

Jadiel · June 10, 2017, 9:03pm

No problem. Try stuff all you like

P2T4

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Macciatus, the Whisperer
Reteller of Truths

STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman
Manufactured Truth
Traffic Director
Spectral Hound

WORKERS
Spectral Aven
Porkhand Magistrate
Building Inspector
Reputable Newsman

NextHand

Spectral Hound
Arrest
Elite Training
Traffic Director

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($9)
Bigby - ($7)
Bigby casts Lawful Search on your hand - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Spectral Hound - ($4)
Tech II (Truth) - ($0)
Musketeer kills Seer at long range
Brave Knight deals 3 damage to your Tech I

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 3, reshuffle, draw 1

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Brave Knight (3/3A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: L1 Bigby (2/3)
[I]Technician[/I]: Spectral Hound (3/3)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Bluecoat Musketeer (1/1)
Jail (3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 4
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 9

holytispon · June 11, 2017, 1:39am

@Shadow_Night_Black - I welcome advice about what I did wrong (I’m thinking strategically here but of course, I made a rules error please point that out). But I guess I’d like to keep doing the next moves myself so I’ll learn from my mistakes

holytispon · June 11, 2017, 1:50am

"P1T5

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Argonaut
Argonaut

STARTING HAND
Tinkerer
Fading Argonaut
Forgotten Fighter
Seer

WORKERS
Nullcraft
Hardened Mox
Temporal Research
Fading Argonaut

NextHand

Forgotten Fighter
Argonaut
Now!

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Vir - ($5)
Exchange a card with deck - ($4)
KotC
Seer, goes to jail and breaks out Neo - ($3)
Heroes’ Hall - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Neo Plexus (2/2A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: Knight of the Conclave #1 (4/4), resist 1
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
KotC #2, 3 runes
L1 Vir, 2/3
Seer, in jail
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 2
Heroes’ Hall HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 3
Deck: 7
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 8

Thoughts

I’m not excited about my chances. If he gets MT again, he can copy my KotC. He can probably arrest one of my patrolling units as well.

"

Shadow_Night_Black · June 11, 2017, 1:52am

I think you mostly hit it on the head already, Blue’s ability to copy units makes Plasmodium/KotC very risky. The main mistake I make with purple is forgetting how powerful their tech 0 units are (Mox, Fargo esp), with Battlesuits (don’t be afraid to go down a card in the first few turns to get battlesuits out, Fargo/Neo + Suits + Worker is a very good T2). Purple has some of the best Tech 2 and card draw in the game, so going down a card or two to get there early is fine (Just remember that if Quince is around, those hyperions may be coming straight back at you if you’re not careful). P1 without mox as purple is hard, I generally feel like I need to apply pressure as that is the P1 advantage, but the purple starter/hero’s are not the best for this. I generally need the high tempo play in the Tech 1 stage to push out (Stewardess, Now! etc).

Jadiel · June 11, 2017, 4:25am

P2T5

Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Liberty Gryphon
Liberty Gryphon

STARTING HAND
Elite Training
Arrest
Spectral Hound
Traffic Director

WORKERS
Spectral Aven
Porkhand Magistrate
Building Inspector
Reputable Newsman
Traffic Director

NextHand

Lawful Search
Reteller of Truths
Arrest
Macciatus, the Whisperer

Discard

Elite Training
Liberty Gryphon
Liberty Gryphon

Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Hound kills Plexus
Musketeer deals 1 damage to KotC at long range
Brave Knight trades with KotC, BK returns to hand
Bigby destroys Tech I, your base to 18
Hound #2 - ($7)
Brave Knight returns! - ($4)
Oni - ($2)

Float ($2)
Stash 1, Discard 1, draw 3

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Brave Knight (3/3A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]: L1 Oni (2/3)
[I]Technician[/I]: Spectral Hound #2 (3/3)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Bluecoat Musketeer (1/1)
Jail (3)
L1 Bigby (2/3)
Spectral Hound #1 (3/1)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Truth)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 4
Deck: 1
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 2
Workers: 10

holytispon · June 11, 2017, 5:14am

GG. I’ve got nothing. Let’s start again. I’ll be P1 again, if you don’t mind - I want to try again from the same position before we switch around again.

holytispon · June 11, 2017, 5:15am

GLHF

"P1T1

StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Battle Suits
Forgotten Fighter
Tinkerer
Time Spiral
Temporal Research

WORKERS
Forgotten Fighter

NextHand

Fading Argonaut
Nullcraft
Neo Plexus
Hardened Mox
Plasmodium

Discard

Temporal Research
Time Spiral
Tinkerer

Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
Battle Suits - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5

[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

Hand: 5
Deck: 0
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 5

Thoughts

Possibly the worst hand ever.

"