Manufactured Truth
Traffic Director
Building Inspector
Spectral Aven
Jail
Discard
Arrest
Bluecoat Musketeer
Lawful Search
Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Summon Oni - ($2)
Recruit Reputable Newsman @1 - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]: Onimaru (2+1/3)
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Reputable Newsman (0/3, Ye canāt play spells costinā 1)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 5
Deck: 0
Disc: 3
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 6
[details=Thoughts]
So this is cheap.dec. The goal is to get Past+Tech Lab (Blood) or vice-versa, and get Slow Time Generator working. Blue Starter and Cadets, Gliders, Shimmer Rays, and Crashbarrows should be enough to put me at an advantage. (If I can make it happen. Hah!)
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Build Tech I - ($3)
Hire Building Inspector - ($2)
Hire Traffic Director - ($1)
Float ($1)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Traffic Director (1/1+A), untargetable
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1), 1st building costs 1 Extra!
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Jaina (2/3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 4
Deck: 4
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 6
No, my starting deck was not split in a weird way. Nope, nothing to see here whistles.
Thoughts
Iāve lost many a game to an early max Oni, so one Flame Arrow for the chance to stop that from happening. I like Tax Collector, heās not huge stat-wise, but stealing a gold could really help me out and a 2/3 body is just fine.
STARTING HAND
Jail
Manufactured Truth
Spectral Aven
Building Inspector
Traffic Director
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
NextHand
Spectral Aven
Traffic Director
Arrest
Overeager Cadet
Lawful Search
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Build expensive Tech I (curse you, Inspector! shakes fist) - ($2) Oni kills Traffic Director, taking 1
Recruit Building Inspector of my own; itās a bureaucracy-off! - ($1)
Float ($1)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader: Reputable Newsman (0/3+a, Ye canāt play spells costinā 1)
Elite:
Scavenger:
Technician:
Lookout: Building Inspector (1/1, Resist 1 from Lookout; your first building each turn costs $1 more) In Play:
Onimaru (2/2) Buildings:
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Economy Info: Cards:
Hand: 5
Deck: 3
Disc: 0 Gold:
Gold: 1
Workers: 7
[details=Thoughts][spoiler]
Could have Man. Truth to trade Newsman with BI to get back to less expensive Tech I. But that still costs me 1. And a 2-cost unit. And an additional card. So yeah. I just bit the bullet and paid for my Tech building.
I drew one Cadet (great!). I may Lawful Search to try to draw into the next. It would be really nice to play Tech II, Tech Lab, and 2x Cadet in one turn.
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Traffic Director (1/1)
Building Inspector (1/1)
Flame Arrow
Reputable Newsman
Tax Collector
Scribe
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Hire Tax Collector, āIt seems you forgot to file last turnā¦ā (Steal your float) - ($5)
Jaina casts Flame Arrow on Reputable Newsman! āCorrupt media outlets will burn!ā - ($1)
Building Inspector trades with Building Inspector in a flurry of litigation and slaps.
Jaina attacks Onimaru up close, āYouāre not so tough when youāre napping Onimaruā¦ā. Jaina takes 2 damage, gains 2 levels.
Jaina gains 1 level, heals, mid-band. - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 3
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Tax Collector (2/3+A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
L4 Jaina (3/3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 3
Deck: 1
Disc: 6
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 7
Thoughts
Felt like a good turn. Flame Arrow is expensive, but you get some results thatās for sure. Killing Oni makes me feel very relaxed though Jaina is never really āsafeā with her constant 3 HP. Iām not sure what heās up to, but decided in the interests of making Manufactured Truth weaker, Iāll just be teching in bureaucrats for a while.
STARTING HAND
Lawful Search
Overeager Cadet
Spectral Aven
Arrest
Traffic Director
WORKERS
Porkhand Magistrate
Jail
Arrest
NextHand
Shoddy Glider
Overeager Cadet
Bluecoat Musketeer
Manufactured Truth
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Illegal government float theft - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Build Tech II (Past) - ($2)
Build Tech Lab (Blood) - ($1)
Recruit Overeager Cadet
Recruit Traffic Director - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 3, reshuffle, draw 1
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]: Overeager Cadet (2+1/2)
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Traffic Director (1/1, Untargetable)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Past)
Tech Lab HP: 4 (Blood)
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 4
Deck: 5
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 8
[details=Thoughts]
Booo taxes! And double-boo no hero! No double cadets for me. And it meant I had to go down on cards for defense. I hope my Tech Lab survives, because I drew Glider.
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Max Jaina! The temperature is really warm now! - ($3)
Build a Jail - ($0)
Jaina fires an arrow right through the Overeager Cadetās eye!
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Tax Collector (2/3)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
L7 Jaina (4/3)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Jail HP: 3
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 3
Deck: 7
Disc: 0
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 8
Thoughts
I realized Iām so worried about crashbarrows I should build a jail. My hand is tiny, my board is not that big, but with Jail and max-Jaina Iām in control of the game which is what I built this deck to do! Carpe Diem!
Overeager Cadet
Manufactured Truth
Shoddy Glider
Crashbarrow
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Summon Prynn @4 runes - ($5)
Recruit Shoddy Glider, which hovers temporarily in Jail - ($4)
Recruit Overeager Cadet, to Jail, bumpgin Gider out Glider kills Jaina, Prynn to Lv. 3
Max Prynn - ($0)
Remove 2 time runes from Prynn to trash Glider Traffic Director hits your Tech I for 1
Shoddy Glider (3/1, Haste, Flying) held outside of time by Prynn
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Past)
Tech Lab HP: 4 (Blood)
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 3
Deck: 2
Disc: 4
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 9
[details=Thoughts]
I didnāt draw my Slow Time. If I donāt get Injunctioned, I can Lawful Search and have a 50-50 chance of drawing into it. Enh. Then I just have to hope he doesnāt ever get a Jaina spell, or Nature Reclaims, or Traffic Director for 2 turns. Hah!
Wandering Mimic
Building Inspector (1/1)
Chameleon
Arrest
Discard
Injunction
Momentās Peace
Traffic Director (1/1)
Tax Collector
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Build Tech II (Balance) - ($3)
Hire Scribe, he draws up a card for me. - ($1)
Float ($1)
Discard 2, draw 4
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Scribe (1/3+A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Tax Collector (2/3)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Jail, HP: 3
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 4
Tech II HP: 5 (Balance)
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 4
Deck: 2
Disc: 4
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 1
Workers: 9
[details=Thoughts]
Wow, well so much for my control game! Shoddy Glider was a great choice because he saw me leaning on Jaina, gotta say Props to the Pirate for that one. Where do we go from here? Well, Wandering Mimic will be good eventually and Iād love to have some situational ways to say āNo!ā, hence the Momentās Peace and Injunction. Though the way this game has turned, Iām not sure theyāll show up in a timely manner. Nevertheless! I am now at the mercy of my draws for choosing which hero to play, once I can get enough money to feel comfortable doing so!
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Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Prynn goes to 1 Time Rune
Prynn casts an expensive Lawful Search: I draw a card - ($7)
Recruit Building Inspector, who goes to Jail, freeing Cadet - ($6) Prynn attacks your Scribe for 2 after armor, taking 1; runes @2 Traffic Director hits your Tech II for 1
Summon Drakk to midband - ($1)
Worker - ($0) Prynn removes 2 time runes to trash your Tax Collector Prynn immediately dies from Fading: Tax Collector comes back, but I have nothing to steal; Glider comes back; levels fizzle You must skip your discard/draw step this turnThereās a space for this at the bottom of the spreadsheet Shoddy Glider breaks your Tech II in a Frenzy; your base takes 2
Shoddy Glider dies from Ephemeral
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Overeager Cadet (2/2+a)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Drakk Ramhorn, Lv. 4 (2/3, Hits your base for 1 when he dies)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Building Inspector Held in your Jail
Traffic Director (1/1, Untargetable)
[B]Buildings:[/B]
If she has exactly two time runes, she CAN use her max level ability to trash a unit. If she does, she then immediately dies because of hanving no fading runes, then the trashed unit returns to play. This does not count as ādies from fadingā on her middle ability, because that only triggers if fading itself removed the last time rune. ā Sirlin
Still a nice turn, but if youād like to make any changes feel free!
Iām going to go on the record as saying thatās the dumbest ruling Iāve read on these forums. The only reason she could die from not having time runes is because the fading ability says she dies when she doesnāt have time runes. So itās the fading ability thatās killing her. So sheās dying from the fading ability. Thatās some seriously twisted logic there to say sheās dying because of the fading ability but not from the fading ability.
Hrmmm. I still think Iām in slightly better shape with your Tech II broken, even if Iāve had to put a buttload of cash into a dead Prynn for it, and at least this way Iām not giving you any levels. Letās play it out.
Yeah, I mean it was a convoluted turn of events, but the results were still pretty good. Breaking Tech II with a jail in play and only a 1/1 to attack is prettttty good.
P1T6
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
T-REX
Potent Basilisk
STARTING HAND
Arrest
Chameleon
Building Inspector (1/1)
Wandering Mimic
WORKERS
Bluecoat Musketeer
Spectral Aven
Porkhand Magistrate
Lawful Search
Manufactured Truth
Building Inspector
NextHand
Wandering Mimic
Traffic Director (1/1)
Flame Arrow
Reputable Newsman
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($10)
Worker - ($9)
Build a Tower, we need to guard ourselves! - ($6)
Summon Bigby - ($4)
Bigby Arrests Overager Cadet! You should always have your license with you kid. - ($2)
Scribe and Tax Collector team up to kill Drakk! āSurely your kind shouldnāt be in the city.ā Scribe dies, Tax Collector takes 2 damage. My base takes 1. Bigby gains 2 levels, goes to mid-band. You draw a card.
Bigby stashses a card. mysterious music plays
Rebuild Tech II
[details=Thoughts]
Well, his turn was nasty. I think my response is decent. Iām glad he went for tech II instead of jail! Jail is nasty and will slow down his aggression. I like killing Drakk! That is a relief that he canāt break jail, max Drakk, then start getting hasty. Crashbarrows are still really bad for me, but letās face it - thatās been the situation all game. As such, Iād rather get a card out of Bigbyās contraption-fueled death. Maybe heāll play some Past units? Those seem so much tamer than the blood onesā¦ [/details]
I think the whole problem is that fading is based on a Magic ability. In Magic there werenāt many ways to spend fading counters on creatures, the creature was just slowly going to wink out of existence. Some enchantments (like upgrades) were printed where you could remove fading counters for cool effects - resource denial, creature control, hand denial. I think Prynn is based on these enchantments, but of course she acts much more like a creature (or unit) than she does an enchantment (or upgrade). The only way for her to die naturally from Fading is for you to start your turn with only 1 Fading counter on her and then remove it and her from play. Iāve personally never seen this happen. She gets a counter on attacking and youāre almost always better off attacking.
Maybe there are some narrow plays where you force your at-parity opponent to kill Prynn, who is not patrolling, instead of going after base/tech because they donāt want to skip their discard/draw? I dunno, seems super-niche. Maybe at some point in testing she only had 3 fading counters? Then you could bring her out, max her, banish something, and leave her there like a ticking time-bomb? @ClanNatioy Do you happen to know?
As far as I saw and can remember the only thing that changed about Prynn was a wording change. So I didnāt see any game play related changes to Prynn.
For sure somebody tried that in playtesting and said itās the dumbest thing in the world that the discard/draw ability fires in that case and they just sought a ruling to confirm that was too powerful.
I think itās not too powerful, but thatās just my opinion.
The way it works is completely non-intuitive so the only reason to ban it that I can think of is power level.
Crashbarrow
Shoddy Glider
Traffic Director
Desperation
Ebbflow Archon
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($10)
Draw from technician Skip worker
Recruit Crashbarrow, to Jail (Inspector pops out) - ($8)
Recruit Shoddy Glider, to Jail (Crashbarrow pops out) - ($7)
Recruit Reputable Newsman, to Jail (Glider pops out) - ($5) Build a Slow Time Generator: our workers only produce $4 total each turn - ($0) Crashbarrow takes out Bigby and does 2 damage to Tech II; you draw, levels fizzle, Barrow dies to Tower Shoddy Glider takes out your Tech II and dies to Tower; your base takes 2 Traffic Director trades with Tax Collector Pray I get lucky and you didnāt draw a Jaina spell
Float ($0)
Discard 0, draw 2
[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]
[I]Squad Leader[/I]:
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1, Your first building this turn costs $1 more)
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[B]In Play:[/B]
Overeager Cadet (2/2) Under arrest āI swear I didnāt do it! Iām being framed, you hear me!?ā
Reputable Newsman Held in your jail
Slow Time Generator HP: 2
[B]Buildings:[/B]
Base HP: 20
Tech I HP: 5
Tech II HP: 5 (Past)
Tech Lab HP: 4 (Blood)
[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]
Hand: 2
Deck: 4
Disc: 5
[B]Gold:[/B]
Gold: 0
Workers: 10
[details=Thoughts]
So. That was pretty cool. Letās see how long I can maintain the advantage. Teched in Desperation, because my hand size is nada. Teched in Archon, because that Generatorās gonna die someday, and Archon+whatever unit I draw is pretty good.
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Jaina (2/3+A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
[I]Squad Leader[/I]: Jaina (2/3+A)
[I]Elite[/I]:
[I]Scavenger[/I]:
[I]Technician[/I]:
[I]Lookout[/I]:
Base HP: 20
Base HP: 20
[I]Technician[/I]:
Base HP: 20
Shoddy Glider was a great choice because he saw me leaning on Jaina, gotta say Props to the Pirate for that one. Where do we go from here? Well, Wandering Mimic will be good eventually and Iād love to have some situational ways to say āNo!ā, hence the Momentās Peace and Injunction. Though the way this game has turned, Iām not sure theyāll show up in a timely manner. Nevertheless! I am now at the mercy of my draws for choosing which hero to play, once I can get enough money to feel comfortable doing so!
