You should have a deck of 3 to draw from before reshuffling, I think? Or is this shorthand?
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No just copypasta laziness, you’re right
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P1T4
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Gargoyle
Gargoyle
STARTING HAND
Sacrifice the Weak
Skeleton Javelineer
Deteriorate
Graveyard
WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
NextHand
Pestering Haunt
Soul Stone
Thieving Imp
Discard
Deteriorate
Sacrifice the Weak
Gargoyle
Gargoyle
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Vandy Anadrose - ($5)
Deteriorate, Nimble Fencer goes down to 1/2+1A
Jandra kills Fencer and Bombaster, you draw, takes 1 damage
Graveyard - ($3)
Tower - ($0)
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: -
Elite: -
Scavenger: -
Technician: Ardra’s Boulder 2/8 (Mythmaking aura) -
Lookout:
In Play:
- Vandy L1 2/3 (sparkshot)
- Jandra, the Negator 5/1 (overpower, non-demon allied units die on death, Mythmaking aura, 4 damage)
-
Graveyard HP: 3 - Mythmaking (my legendaries get +2/+2, yours get -1/-1)
Graveyard HP: 3Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 3
- Deck: 1
- Disc: 4
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 8
Thoughts
Hmm, he’s probably trying to reach Jandra with a Monkey. However, I can wipe his board again to prevent an easy Two Step, and put up a Tower and a Graveyard, if I delay Tech II, so Jandra would come straight back again. I might want to patrol Vandy in front, otherwise she’s an easy alternative target, but I definitely want the Boulder in Technician. Patrolling Vandy lets maxband Zane have some shenanigans, but that’s all of FrozenStorm’s gold after worker. If I just patrol the Boulder, he can move it but can’t kill it. Midband Drakk + Monkey is more of a problem against Vandy. I think I just patrol the Boulder, he’s already got to choose between Jandra and the Graveyard if he can get through.
Teching in two Gargoyles in preparation for Gunships.
EDIT: Oh, right, Kidnapping. That doesn’t help him though: if he Kidnaps the Boulder it goes down to 0 attack, and if he Kidnaps Jandra she and the Boulder die immediately, not the cheapest way for him to do that but it is pretty card-efficient. He could also Kidnap the Boulder just to move it out the way and kill Jandra, but then the Boulder survives.
Game 3, Player 2, Turn 4
P1 [Demon]/Strength/Growth vs P2 [Anarchy/Blood]/Finesse
Starting Hand
Gunpoint Taxman
Makeshift Rambaster
Nautical Dog
Disguised Monkey
Mad Man
Charge (techn)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (8)
- Tech 2 cards in (except for turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Kidnapping, Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey x2
Gunpoint Taxman, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Gunpoint Taxman (6)
- Disguised Monkey (4)
- Nautical Dog (3)
- Worker (2)
Workers
Careless Musketeer, Scorch, Bloodburn
-
Patrol as below - Discard 2 Draw 3 rs Draw 1
- Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19 - Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Disguised Monkey (3/3+1armor) -
Elite: -
Scavenger: Nautical Dog (1/1) -
Technician: Gunpoint Taxman (3/3) -
Lookout:
In Play:
- nothin
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 5
- Disc: 0
Gold:
- Gold: 2
- Workers: 9
End of Turn Hand
Pillage
Disguised Monkey
Bloodrage Ogre
Kidnapping
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Darn he goes tower, needed to draw both monkeys, didn’t happen… Should have gone for kidnapping I suppose. Well I’ll get one now, and a Steam Tank to help wall up. Tough sledding here…
P1T5
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Dark Pact
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat
STARTING HAND
Thieving Imp
Soul Stone
Pestering Haunt
WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
Pestering Haunt
NextHand
Galina Glimmer
Gargoyle
Soul Stone
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Soul Stone on Jandra, now 6 attack - ($5)
Jandra kills Disguised Monkey and overpowers to Gunpoint Taxman for 2 damage, takes 3 damage, Soul Stone unattaches and heals
Vandy kills Nautical Dog and sparkshots Gunpoint Taxman, you get a gold and draw, takes 1 damage
Tech II Strength - ($1)
Float ($1)
Discard 1, draw 1, reshuffle, draw 2
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader:
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: Ardra’s Boulder 2/8 (Mythmaking aura)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Vandy L1 2/2 (sparkshot, 1 damage)
- Jandra, the Negator 5/5 (overpower, non-demon allied units die on death, Mythmaking aura)
-
Graveyard HP: 3
- Mythmaking (my legendaries get +2/+2)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Strength)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 3
- Deck: 6
- Disc: 0
Gold:
- Gold: 1
- Workers: 9
Thoughts
Well, there’s one Monkey. I need to keep an eye out for the other one, but with a Soul Stone in hand I think I’m out of danger for one turn. Only teching one Pact to bring DeGrey into the deck faster for more offense, if I don’t draw into Pact I can midband Vandy and fetch it.
Game 3, Player 2, Turn 5
P1 [Demon]/Strength/Growth vs P2 [Anarchy/Blood]/Finesse
Starting Hand
Pillage
Disguised Monkey
Bloodrage Ogre
Kidnapping
Steam Tank (techn)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (9+2float+1scav)
- Draw 1 techn
- Tech 2 cards in (except for turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Pirate Gunship x2
Kidnapping, Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey x2
Gunpoint Taxman, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Drakk (10)
- Kidnapping, Boulder is now my boulder, though it is a weak AF -1/5 (6)
- Run Boulder into Jandra, it dies and goes to your discard (I believe, having read the Kidnapping clarifications)
- Zane, trade with Vandy, Drakk to level 3 (4)
- Steam Tank (1)
- Worker (0)
Workers
Pillage, Makeshift Rambaster, Careless Musketeer, Scorch, Bloodburn
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 Draw 4
- Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Steam Tank (3/6+1armor)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: Drakk (1/3 lvl 3)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- nothin
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 0
- Disc: 8
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 10
End of Turn Hand
Nimble Fencer
Charge
Mad Man
Bombaster
End of Turn Discard
Gunpoint Taxman
Nautical Dog
Disguised Monkey
Pirate Gunship
Pirate Gunship
Kidnapping
Bloodrage Ogre
Disguised Monkey
My Thoughts
This works out much better with him teching up… Especially with me techn-ing the Steam Tank. Kidnapping + Steam Tank + kill Vandy, next turn I can tech up and he’s on permanent Gunship alert. That works to my advantage nicely
It goes to my Graveyard, looks right otherwise. EDIT: Wait, no, you’re right, sorry. Well, that could be a problem.
I’m asking in the Rules Thread b/c I’m not 100% certain. It’s a little ambiguous b/c Graveyard reads “A unit of yours”. The unit is owned by you, but controlled by me for the duration of Kidnapping. Kidnapping’s clarification makes the most specific instruction (“If it dies during your turn, it goes to opponent’s discard”), but I can see that being overruled by “a unit of yours” meaning “a unit you own”.
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EricF has an old reply saying it goes to discard, which would be consistent with “your” referring to the controller rather than the owner on other cards. But I’ll wait and see.
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Oh? Where is that? I searched the rules thread for kidnapping + graveyard but didn’t find any previous discussion
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Discard makes sense, so I’ll play on.
P1T6
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Dinosize
Dark Pact
STARTING HAND
Galina Glimmer
Gargoyle
Soul Stone
WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
Pestering Haunt
NextHand
Thieving Imp
Deteriorate
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat
Discard
Ardra’s Boulder
Soul Stone
Dinosize
Dark Pact
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($10)
Galina Glimmer - ($9)
Gargoyle - ($6)
Argagarg Garg, Wisp arrives - ($4)
Maxband Argagarg, Water Elemental arrives - ($0)
Jandra hits Steam Tank for 4+1A damage, takes 3 damage
Skip worker!
Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Galina Glimmer 4/4+1A (1 gold per 2 green units at upkeep, Mythmaking aura)
-
Elite: Argagarg L5 1+1/5
-
Scavenger: Wisp 0/1
-
Technician: Water Elemental 3/3+1A (anti-air)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Jandra, the Negator 5/2 (overpower, non-demon allied units die on death, Mythmaking aura, 3 damage)
- Gargoyle 0/2 (indestructible)
-
Graveyard HP: 3
- Mythmaking (my legendaries get +2/+2)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Strength)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 3
- Deck: 3
- Disc: 4
Gold:
- Gold: 0
- Workers: 9
Thoughts
This is bad, I really needed the card draw from Technician or Vandy. Hitting the Tank with Jandra leaves her with 3 health and ripe for a Monkey or a Kidnapping, but Kidnapping will kill her anyway since she’d attack into my tower with 2 health. Galina and the Gargoyle leave me with 6 pre-worker, maybe I just tech up now? Or I could block up with maxband Argagarg or midband Rook. The latter is less vulnerable to Jandra being killed, the former helps stop Fencers and Zane from reaching the back line. Wisp and Water Elemental would die if I play DeGrey, but I should be able to get some damage in with them before then. I think I’m more worried about Fencers, leaving a unit alive allows for an easier Two Step.
Delaying Morningstar Pass in favour of Dinosize, I really need an attack on FrozenStorm’s buildings before I completely run out of steam.
Game 3, Player 2, Turn 6
P1 [Demon]/Strength/Growth vs P2 [Anarchy/Blood]/Finesse
Starting Hand
Nimble Fencer
Charge
Mad Man
Bombaster
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (10)
- Tech 2 cards in (except for turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Discord, Steam Tank
Pirate Gunship x2
Kidnapping, Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey x2
Gunpoint Taxman, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Midband Drakk (9)
- Mad Man, it and Tank kill Galina (8)
- Nimble Fencer (6)
- Tech 3 (1)
Workers
Pillage, Makeshift Rambaster, Careless Musketeer, Scorch, Bloodburn
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 rs Draw 4
- Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 19
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 5 ANARCHY
- Tech3 HP: 5
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Nimble Fencer (2/3+1armor)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: Drakk (2/3 lvl 4)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- nothin
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 10
- Disc: 0
Gold:
- Gold: 1
- Workers: 10
End of Turn Hand
Pirate Gunship
Gunpoint Taxman
Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Woof that’s a lot of units… I think I want at least one unit gone and I might as well trade off the Steam Tank so I can replay it. He’ll almost certainly take the Tech 3, so I better tech some stuff to help. The other Steam Tank and a Discord ought to help clear off the board
P1T7
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
Stampede
Oathkeeper of Kor Mountain
STARTING HAND
Deteriorate
Thieving Imp
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat
WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
Pestering Haunt
Thieving Imp
NextHand
Dark Pact
Gargoyle
Sacrifice the Weak
Discard
Ardra’s Boulder
Soul Stone
Dinosize
Dark Pact
Deteriorate
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat
Stampede
Oathkeeper of Kor Mountain
Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Vandy Anadrose - ($6)
Deteriorate, Nimble Fencer is 1/2+1A
Argagarg boosts Jandra
Jandra kills Nimble Fencer and Drakk, you draw, Vandy hits level 3 (midband), my base to 18
Gargoyle activates - ($5)
Galina Glimmer returns - ($4)
Maxband Vandy, Wisp is doomed - ($2)
Water Elemental and Wisp destroy Tech III, your base to 17
Gargoyle hits Tech II down to 2
Float ($2)
Discard 1, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Galina Glimmer 4/4+1A (1 gold per 2 green units, Mythmaking aura)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician: Vandy L5 4/5 (sparkshot, resist 1)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- Argagarg L5 1/5
- Jandra, the Negator 5/2 (overpower, non-demon allied units die on death, Mythmaking aura, 3 damage)
- Water Elemental 3/3+1A (anti-air)
- Gargoyle 3/2 (flying)
- Wisp 2/3 (doomed)
-
Graveyard HP: 3
- Mythmaking (my legendaries get +2/+2)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 18
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Strength)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 3
- Deck: 0
- Disc: 8
Gold:
- Gold: 2
- Workers: 10
Thoughts
That worked out OK. Time to retaliate? I’m facing 7 health with at least 9 attack if I don’t get Jandra killed in the process. Activate the Gargoyle, and that’s 5 extra attack to take down the Tech III. Deteriorate gets another, and I could also maxband Vandy to doom something. That’s 3 extra damage, not enough. The Deteriorate lets me keep everything alive, though.
Do I maxband Vandy, or play DeGrey? The latter gets the Elemental and Wisp killed, so swapping a 0/1 and a 3/3 for a 6/5. If Wisp and Galina survive, I get extra income and am guaranteed Dark Pact in hand, and Stampede is better if I draw into that. Tough choice, but I think I want a larger hand size here. Ah, but maxbanding Vandy means I need to Doom something, so I lose the Wisp but do 2 damage to the Tech II now. I can live with that. Or I could a worker and do both… No, I’m reshuffling next turn so now’s a good time to stop teching.
Game 3, Player 2, Turn 7
P1 [Demon]/Strength/Growth vs P2 [Anarchy/Blood]/Finesse
Starting Hand
Pirate Gunship
Gunpoint Taxman
Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey
Discord (techn, eh)
Events of Turn:
Upkeep:
- Get Gold (10+1float)
- no techs
All Teched Cards
Discord, Steam Tank
Pirate Gunship x2
Kidnapping, Steam Tank
Disguised Monkey x2
Gunpoint Taxman, Nimble Fencer
Main:
- Rebuild tech 3
- Steam Tank (8)
- Gunpoint Taxman (6)
- Disguised Monkey (4)
- River (2)
Workers
Pillage, Makeshift Rambaster, Careless Musketeer, Scorch, Bloodburn
-
Patrol as below
- Discard 2 Draw 4
- Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Board Info:
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 17
- Tech1 HP: 5
- Tech2 HP: 2 ANARCHY
- Tech3 HP: 5
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Steam Tank (3/6+1armor)
-
Elite: River (2+1/3)
-
Scavenger: Disguised Monkey (3/3)
-
Technician: Gunpoint Taxman (3/3)
-
Lookout:
In Play:
- nothin
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 4
- Deck: 5
- Disc: 3
Gold:
- Gold: 2
- Workers: 10
End of Turn Hand
Steam Tank
Pirate Gunship
Mad Man
Disguised Monkey
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Ughhhh lol maybe I needed to tech lab for blood? This is rough…
Hmm, does Galina income happen before the Wisp dies from Doom?
I think it’s your choice probably, like how Gargoyle and Doom interact?
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P1T8
StartingHand Workers
STARTING HAND
Sacrifice the Weak
Dark Pact
Gargoyle
Oathkeeper of Kor Mountain
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat
WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
Pestering Haunt
Thieving Imp
NextHand
Dark Pact
Stampede
Soul Stone
Discard
Dark Pact
Sacrifice the Weak
Oathkeeper of Kor Mountain
Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + float + Galina - ($13)
Wisp dies from doom
Dark Pact, my base to 16, I draw 2
Water Elemental suicides into Steam Tank for 2+1A damage
Galina Glimmer kills Steam Tank, takes 3 damage
Sacrifice the Weak, Galina dies, Gunpoint Taxman dies, you draw - ($11)
Argagarg boosts Jandra
Jandra trades with Disguised Monkey and River, you get a gold, levels fizzle
Activate Gargoyle - ($10)
Gargoyle and Vandy destroy Tech III
Gargoyle #2 - ($7)
Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat - ($4)
Galina Glimmer returns - ($3)
Float ($3)
Discard 1, draw 3
Board Info:
In Patrol:
-
Squad Leader: Galina Glimmer 4/4+1A (1 gold per 2 green units, Mythmaking aura)
-
Elite:
-
Scavenger:
-
Technician:
-
Lookout: Jefferson DeGrey, Ghostly Diplomat 6/5 (resist 0+1, Mythmaking aura)
In Play:
- Argagarg L5 1/5
- Vandy L5 4/5 (sparkshot, resist 1)
- Gargoyle #1 3/2 (flying)
- Gargoyle #2 0/2 (indestructible)
-
Graveyard HP: 3 (Jandra, the Negator)
- Mythmaking (my legendaries get +2/+2)
Buildings:
-
Base HP: 16
-
Tech I HP: 5
-
Tech II HP: 5 (Strength)
-
Tower HP: 4
Economy Info:
Cards:
- Hand: 3
- Deck: 3
- Disc: 3
Gold:
- Gold: 3
- Workers: 10
Thoughts
16 health to get through, 20 attack on the board including Gargoyle. Best way to go, I think, is boost the Water Elemental so it survives the Steam Tank, than Sacrifice the Weak. That gets me up to the equivalent of 23 attack, 7 more than needed. Can I get more? I think not, sadly. Besides, that doesn’t work because I run into problems with Jandra dying. So maybe I’m best off suiciding the Gargoyle into the Taxman, then Saccing the Water Elemental to kill the Tank. That’s the equivalent of 24 attack, 8 extra damage to hit buildings with. I only need 7, so I could afford to Shadow Blade something and keep my stuff alive.
Gargoyle on Taxman, WE for Tank, Shadow Blade River or Taxman… can’t split the damage up properly like that. How about boost WE to hit Tank down to 3, StW on Taxman, I have Vandy (5/2), Galina (4/4), and Jandra (4/5) to kill River (2/3) and Tank (3/3). I don’t think I can hit Tech II this turn. Nuts.
Oh, or how about I kill the Tank with WE and Galina, then StW Galina and Taxman? Then I have Argagarg boost (1), Jandra (5), Gargoyle (3), Vandy (4), to kill two 3s and hit buildings. Difference would be that I could safely get Jandra killed before I activate Gargoyle. Maybe that’s worth the bother.
FrozenStorm has enough to maxband Zane and bring out Drakk and Kidnapping, in no particular order. I don not want DeGrey to get stolen, even with debuffs he’s got enough to destroy the Graveyard. He doesn’t have enough to take DeGrey if I put him in Lookout, and stealing Galina at 1/1 is pretty pointless, so I think I put Galina in front for 5 total health in case of midband Drakk + Monkey, with DeGrey in Lookout behind. At worst, my patrol dies, I think.
Jandra would actually be the one to die from StW here, but you could have easily reversed the order and nothing would have changed.
The question I have, though, is whether Jandra dying causes the gargoyle to “die”. It should be “destroyed” (as it is not a demon), and I believe that means its indestructable-ness would prevent that and it must be exhausted (so it couldn’t attack).
The case for Vandy doom triggering the death feels very similar to the Jandra case Rules Questions thread - #408 by Pooh_Bear, and thus I think your attack with the Gargoyle is illegal. Thoughts?
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I realised Jandra would get sacrificed just after I posted, but I agree, “killing” the Gargoyle would exhaust it, and I completely forgot about that. I’ll redo from the Dark Pact.
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