Anybody interested in a much closer set between me and @thehug0naut?
MD vs hug0 in Summer Smash 1-Loss action!
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I need dis
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nice gameplayā¦
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nice game for online gamer.
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So hey, funny story.
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I want to know your Menelker thought processes @Phrawger, your Menelker looks so different from mine.
@mysticjuicer, nice nails!
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y u hate playing 2.2 spd attacks in the early game? 
a) because Iām dumb
b) because Iām scared of A block
c) because Iām scared of losing them and not recurring
I suspect thatās the key to why Iām 1-6 in this MU though!
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Just keep in mind that running into A block should be a minor inconvenience to Gloria most of the time, compared to other characters. Her ability to heal means that with BS up, sheās HP stable. Her healing and her array of 2.2 speed attacks means she can pretty freely bully Arg while Blowfish Spikes isnāt around. You definitely had some rough hands in those games, but they were exacerbated by large Arg life leads, and lack of combat wins to accelerate your draw in the early and mid game.
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Just a quick add-on to your discussion(s) on why 
beats 
:
One aspect of the MU that I think most do not give enough credit to is the two charactersā attack speeds. ALL of Gloriaās face cards effectively beat any attack from Argagarg except AA. In most match ups, Argās 2, J, and most importantly Q, act as fairly good keep-away tools. However, this is definitely not the case with Gloria.
Argās fastest non-AA attack is Q, at 2.2 speed and 9 damage. Note: ALL of Gloriaās face cards are 2.2 or faster. Now, if Arg Q clashes with Gloria J, Gloria still gets to heal and return it to hand. Sure, she technically still takes 5 damage that round, but thatās fairly little. If she does healing touch afterwards, that number goes down to just 1 damage, before Hex. More importantly, though, she gets the J back (while Arg loses Q forever) and, if she has spheres up, still gets to activate them. Advantage: Gloria.
If Q clashes with K, both characters take 9, but Argagarg is then knocked down (very bad for him), and Gloria can still do Healing Touch, meaning she really only takes 5 damage. Advantage: Gloria.
Her Q just cleanly beats Argās Q.
All of this is to say, I would argue that her healing is not necessarily the biggest obstacle Arg faces here. The bigger problem for Argagarg in this MU is that he usually loses any attack clash or throw clash.
This is an even bigger problem because he absolutely needs to be aggressive. Bubble Shield canāt really be relied upon to shut out attacks like in most MU due to Gloriaās healing, so Arg must be on the offensive here. But, Gloria effectively has the dominant throws AND the dominant attacks. It doesnāt help that she can recur them. Arg either has to simply Be Right a lot, or he has to catch Gloria on a particularly awkward hand (i.e.: a hand with few or no face cards) and manage to efficiently exploit it.
This is also why generally, I think Arg should not counter Healing Sphere and instead should counter Gloriaās Jacks whenever possible, especially non-hearts Jacks. Sending those into the discard goes a small way towards getting rid of her oppressive attack options.
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Man now that I have posted that wall of text I realize that it probably no longer qualifies as a āquick add-onā.
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Out of curiosity, which matchups would you folk say is the most balanced? I love Yomi but the concept of the 20xx Carousel and hard counterpicks depresses me somewhat, especially coming from a designer whose ideology involves not ālosing before the game beganā. I enjoy being able to freely pick a character that interests me and master its unique playstyle against other people and characters, not being forced into specific, repetitive picks to avoid an almost certain doom. (I understand that no game can be perfectly balanced and that Yomiās matchup numbers are already superb compared to other gamesā¦ but it is oh so easy to get used to luxury).
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First off, if youāre interested in raw numbers, you can check out this numerical MU chart compiled by @Phrawger:
It combines MU scores from several notable playersā own charts to try and gauge a sort of consensus average. You can also page through and look at each individual chart as well.
As for your actual question, Iām not sure which ones I would definitively say are āmost balanced.ā Otherwise, I would generally say that any MU that isnāt one of the high-profile lopsided MUs (
v 
, 
v 
, 
v 
, etc.) is close-enough to balanced as to be a non-issue.
If pressed to give a specific answer, I think that 
versus is close to even and very fun to play, provided the player knows what they are doing.
Of course, none of that changes the reality of the carousel. If thatās ultimately your worry, your choices are:
- Give in and play the carousel.
- Play a non-carousel character and make up for it in player skill.
- Sign up for @mysticjuicerās 19XX tournaments.
Anyways, maybe someone else can do a better job than I of outlining the most balanced MUs 
.
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Basically every Grave match up is balanced.
Grave is a good pick if you want a decent chance in every match up.
As for if heās good enough? ClanNatioy has won at least one tournament with him, probably more.
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āMORE ACES THAN YOUR BODY HAS ROOM FOR!!!ā is a great thumbnail caption.
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