Yes, that is the alternative function of that map. However, unless sharpo or sirlin want to weigh in, I’m going to go with the “get them all option”
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Problem resolved. 
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It’ll be interesting to see how the maps skew people’s decks. As well as the mass-weenies stuff that’s good for Bloodbowl, I’d expect early draw effects to be great for Flagstone Mines and Daggerfall Prison Camp.
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Actually most of the colours have interactions
Purple :all of the bounce/trash/steal effects.
Red: Kidnapping (if combo with a way to bounce/kill your own units, Maxiumium Anarchy (wipe the board T5 and then gunships?)/Worker distruction.
Green: Trex, but then it probs has the most to gain from building up a board/killing your opponent in a single attack.
Blue: Injuction is probs op, but community service, Judgement Day and Censorship council all seem good.
White: Snapback, but also see green (like T2 max sets is going to build a board,)
I also disagree with the P1 always wins this, a) due to the effects mentioned above, and b) Player 1 can only have tech 2 at the end of the 4 turns, while P2 can have a tech 3 first. If P2 can survie the first swing, they stand a good chance.
Thanks for organizing the next one @zhavier; I could use a breather!
While I will always be in for community tournies, I will humbly submit a few things:
- A series where all maps were played, for context on how they warped the game
- A previous vote on the topic of “which maps we should use”, fresh off that series of playing all the maps
- A caution to everyone; this is going to be weird. Weird stuff will happen. The maps are not necessarily fair, and matchups can feel more decided before cards go down than normal.
I’d love to have the Fall XCAFS be a “community v2 rebalancing” one, where we errata some black, blue, and perhaps other cards, but am okay to wait on it if folks’d prefer mapping it up!
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You are correct, black is not alone in having some interaction, but a TRex is a BIG stretch, considering it only matters in 4 turns, no way to get one of those out before its irrelevant. The other interactions are also arguably weaker or too expensive compared to black.
I did say No Rush 15 was less degenerate, but it certainly has a certain tilt.
That said, My inclination is to only remove Bloodbowl and Lost Temple.
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Don’t forget Neutral, and the most important card: The Boot.
More seriously, Discord will still be pretty annoying.
hahahahahahahahha
No Rush means you literally don’t play out Tech 0 stuff (beyond deck thinning with 1-drops), or have Tech I stuff in your deck at all.
Look to Max Band heroes/ultimates and Tech 2 haste things running rampant (eg: as Player 1, Rook can basically gaurantee a double tech break with birds + earthquake // player 2 can play whatever Tech II things they want if P1 didn’t have a good hero option - Verdant Tree is a must-build)
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Purple could spam out some cards as p2, turn one build tech 1, turn 2, play prynn, fargo, plasmo, temporal research and 2 Knights, assuming draws line up.
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Hey guys do you think detonate is playable on that map
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IDK. Maybe?
You mean for the worker destruction, right? It would keep your deck thinner than the opponent’s, which doesn’t seem like the worst idea when combat starts so late. I don’t know whether that’s worth the delay in teching in permanent cards.
sorry, but no rush doesn’t mean no dmg at all until trn 5? so you can’t dmg buildings?
Indeed. I assume EricF is talking about the case where the opponent doesn’t have access to fliers until Tech II, so you can do chip with Birds as soon as the No Rush period ends.
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You would hit each building and do earthquake on turn 5.
@zhavier I think you have the right pool of 4 maps to ban (and thus, 8 to play on). Those are the worst offenders that I recall
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Alright, we will go 8 maps, top post will be edited to reflect this. Please submit your codex choices by Mar 19, and we will try to have 1st round matches posted Mar 20. Standard tournament rules will apply. No adjustments needed for the addition of map cards, beyond reiterating that all players will be on the same map for each given round.
This tournament will possibly seem even less fair due to the favoritism some maps have for certain specs, but hopefully it will still be quite fun!
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We’re signing up in this thread then? I am in
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… ehh why not, count me in. mono purple.
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