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[XCAFS18] Marto [Necro]/Present/Balance vs CarpeGuitarrem MonoRed


#1

GL, HF !
Playing against monored is hardly ever boring. This should be a nice battle :slight_smile:

"P1T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Skeletal Archery
Graveyard
Sacrifice the Weak
Skeleton Javelineer
Deteriorate


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery


NextHand

Jandra, the Negator
Thieving Imp
Pestering Haunt
Summon Skeletons
Poisonblade Rogue


Discard

Sacrifice the Weak
Deteriorate
Graveyard


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
Skeleton Javelineer - ($2)
Summon Geiger - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: lvl 1 Geiger 2/3+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Skeleton Javelineer
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5
Thoughts

Not a very good starting hand, having both spells t1. I’ll go for Geiger + jav, probably Haunt + tech I + midband/heroes hall on T2. LB or BC depending on T2. Workering Archery is a heartbreak but I’ve no choice here.

"


#2

@CarpeGuitarrem


#3

I’ll be a bit longer yet, gotta pack for a trip tonight.


#4

P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Bloodburn
Pillage
Careless Musketeer
Nautical Dog
Makeshift Rambaster


WORKERS
Pillage


NextHand

Mad Man
Charge
Bloodrage Ogre
Scorch
Bombaster


Discard

Nautical Dog
Bloodburn
Makeshift Rambaster (haste) 2/2


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Summon Careless Musketeer - ($2)
Summon Jaina - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Jaina Stormborne (sparkshot) L1 2/3a
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout: Careless Musketeer 2/1 (lookout resist)

In Play:
*

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
Thoughts

blech, not a great starting hand. I’m in great need of board presence. Rambaster has 2 health, not much else going for it. But, gotta defend against Deteriorate. On the other hand, Jaina needs to patrol anyway to not die, may as well throw up Musketeer and make Deteriorate cost 2


#5

P1T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Bone Collector
Bone Collector


STARTING HAND
Summon Skeletons
Poisonblade Rogue
Thieving Imp
Jandra, the Negator
Pestering Haunt


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator


NextHand

Poisonblade Rogue
Bone Collector
Bone Collector
Deteriorate
Thieving Imp


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Pestering Haunt
Tech I - ($2)
Midband Geiger - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: lvl 3 Geiger 2/4+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Skeleton Javelineer 1/1
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • Pestering Haunt 1/1
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5
Thoughts

Musketeer is a solid check to any skele swarm, and I won’t have deteriorate anytime soon. My only possible plays are 1hp units if I want to tech I (and I do). I can either pay 2 for midband Geiger as SQL, so I won’t offer a free kill (midband Jaina kills me and maxbands just after though, but that means playing no cards). Or I go for Heroes Hall, let Geiger die ? SQL Jav seems even worse, as I’d lose both units to Jaina ant Musketeer…


#6

"P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Ember Sparks
Lobber


STARTING HAND
Bloodrage Ogre
Bombaster
Mad Man
Charge
Scorch


WORKERS
Pillage
Scorch


NextHand

Makeshift Rambaster (haste) 2/2
Charge
Nautical Dog
Ember Sparks


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Musketeer exhausts to kill Haunt
Summon Bloodrage Ogre - ($3)
Summon Bombaster - ($1)
Tech 1 - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite: Bloodrage Ogre 4/2
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Bombaster 2/2
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Careless Musketeer 2/1
  • Jaina Stormborne (sparkshot) L1 2/3a

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

Teching slowly up, working on establishing pings. If I can burn priority targets, I’ll be good.


#8

P1T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Now!
Now!


STARTING HAND
Bone Collector
Bone Collector
Poisonblade Rogue
Thieving Imp
Deteriorate


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator
Poisonblade Rogue


NextHand

Sacrifice the Weak
Graveyard
Summon Skeletons


Discard

Pestering Haunt
Deteriorate
Thieving Imp
Now!
Now!


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Bone Collector - ($3)
Bone Collector - ($1)
Geiger kills Bombaster, you draw 1
Deteriorate Musketeer - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 3


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Bone Collector 3/3+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Bone Collector 3/3
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • lvl 3 Geiger 2/2
  • Skeleton Javelineer 1/1 [jav rune]
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 5
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

Jaina means (I guess) that have no need to fear Kidnapping. Seeing my next turn’s hand, I’m heading for Graveyard + Tech II, whether Balance or Present, and abuse BC + Graveyard + Now! or any tech II + Graveyard (+Now! or hasty unit). I wonder why CarpeGuittarem didn’t put Jaina on SQL, as I’ve no way to play another hero, and I would hate maxing Geiger right now, having no good target for his maxband.


#9

P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Calypso Vystari
Desperation


STARTING HAND
Charge
Ember Sparks
Makeshift Rambaster (haste) 2/2
Nautical Dog
Mad Man


WORKERS
Pillage
Scorch
Makeshift Rambaster


NextHand

Careless Musketeer
Lobber
Bloodburn


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Bloodrage Ogre attacks SQL for 3
Summon Mad Man and clean out SQL - ($5)
Ember Sparks the other Bone Collector, you get 1 gold - ($2)
Jaina kills off Geiger and levels to 3
Midband Jaina; she heals - ($1)
Summon Nautical Dog - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 1, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 1


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Nautical Dog (frenzy 1) 1/1a
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Jaina Stormborne (sparkshot) L4 3/3

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 3
  • Deck: 7
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

Line 1: Ember Sparks (3) a Collector, midband Jaina (6) and bop SQL Collector or summon Mad Man (1) and bop into SQL .

Going with the latter because it’s 2 less and gives me free Jaina levels from a Geiger kill. 2 gold left, no tech 2 here.


#10

"P1T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Hyperion
Hyperion


STARTING HAND
Sacrifice the Weak
Summon Skeletons
Graveyard


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons


NextHand

Sacrifice the Weak
Now!
Deteriorate
Hyperion


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + scav - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Tech II - Present - ($3)
Summon Garth - ($1)
Skeleton token - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton 1/1+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Skeleton Javelineer 1/1 [jav rune]
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • lvl 1 Garth 1/3
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 7
  • Disc: 0
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

I lost Geiger from a stupid copypaste failure, as Jav was supposed to santd in Lookout :confused: A graveyard can’t be defended in this situation. I must hope that being quite low on cards, he can’t take down my tech II.

"


#11

P2T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Molting Firebird
Bamstamper Lizzo


STARTING HAND
Bloodburn
Lobber
Careless Musketeer


WORKERS
Pillage
Scorch
Makeshift Rambaster
Careless Musketeer


NextHand

Desperation
Mad Man


Discard

Nautical Dog
Molting Firebird
Bamstamper Lizzo


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Play Bloodburn - ($4)
Summon Lobber - ($3)
Nautical Dog trades into SQL skellie (2 BB runes)
Lobber kills technician skellie (3 BB runes) and takes 1 damage
Jaina kills Garth and levels up twice
Maxband Jaina; she heals - ($2)
Heroes' Hall - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 0, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Bloodburn (3 runes)
  • Jaina Stormborne (sparkshot) L7 MAX 4/3
  • Lobber (haste) 2/1

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Heroes' Hall HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 5
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

Okay, what’s worst-case scenario here? Anything nightmarish coming out of Present Tech II?

My nightmare scenario is Geiger + Hyperion into Jaina, TD it into another Hyperion. Fortunately, that’s 9 gold. Literally impossible. Hyperion is still scary, but I can Bloodburn it down. Immortal is obnoxious, but leaves 1 gold after worker and Jaina + Lobber + Bloodburn deals with it (if I can haste something). TD an Immortal into a Hyperion next turn is obnoxious.

What's my win condition against this big beefiness of Present Tech II? I think I can still go Molting Firebird and bash the base to death while raining down damage from above.

Plan for this turn: Bloodburn (3), Lobber (1)(exhaust to kill Technician skellie), Nautical Dog trades with SQL, Jaina kills Garth and maxbands (1), build Heroes' Hall (2)

Post-draw thoughts: OMIGOSH THAT DESPERATION DRAW WAS PERFECT.


#12

P1T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Temporal Distorsion
Tricycloid


STARTING HAND
Hyperion
Now!
Sacrifice the Weak
Deteriorate
Bone Collector 3/3


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Sacrifice the Weak


NextHand

Pestering Haunt
Now!
Graveyard
Bone Collector 3/3


Discard

Skeleton Javelineer
Bone Collector 3/3
Now!
Deteriorate
Hyperion
Temporal Distorsion
Tricycloid


Tech 2 card(s)
Draw from techn
Get paid - ($8)
Summon Geiger - ($6)
Bone Collector - ($4)
Now! on BC - ($3)
Worker - ($2)
Summon Midori - ($0)
BC trades with Jaina, I get a skeleton, Geiger midbands

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton 1/1+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Midori 2/3
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • lvl 3 Geiger 2/4
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 2
  • Disc: 7
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

I prefered patrolling int Techn rather than in scav to rise the odds to get an hyperion. Obviously, would’ve I known my draw, I’d have favored scav, but I still believe I did right, as this turn would’ve been complicated elseway. BC + Now! may very well be better though. Costs more in cards, but Hyperion would die to Bloodburn, whereas I can put my skele in SQL.

After draw: Not drawing Hyperion hurts, but having another hasty BC and Graveyard should mitigate that. As long as Geiger survives for a double Hyperion on T7, I’m fine.


#13

P2T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Flame Arrow
Kidnapping


STARTING HAND
Desperation
Mad Man


WORKERS
Pillage
Scorch
Makeshift Rambaster
Careless Musketeer
Ember Sparks


NextHand

Bombaster
Bloodrage Ogre


Discard

Nautical Dog
Molting Firebird
Bamstamper Lizzo
Flame Arrow
Kidnapping
Mad Man
Lobber
Charge


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($9)
Summon Mad Man - ($8)
Summon Drakk - ($6)
Cast and trash Desperation
Worker - ($5)
Bloodburn ping tech 2 for 1 (2 runes)
Lobber trades with skeleton (runes back up to 4)
Summon Zane - ($3)
Mad Man and Zane trade with Midori; you draw a card and maxband Geiger
Summon Calypso Vystari and cast Charge on her - ($0)
Vystari hits your tech 2 down to 1 hp

Float ($0)
Discard 0, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Drakk Ramhorn L3 1/3a
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Bloodburn (4 runes)
  • Calypso Vystari 2/2

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Heroes’ Hall HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 8

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

I could clear with mid Drakk (5), Mad Man (1), ping tech 2, double trade and max Drakk, leaving mid Geiger up and 2 gold from what Desperation draws. Not a fan though. Can also Zane and clear, leaving Geiger up and 5 gold after workering Desperation, but I don’t need tech 2.

The big thing I’m worried about is maxband Geiger replaying Hyperion. I can actually sac Zane into Midori to prematurely max Geiger and stop this. So. Drakk, Zane, bb to tech 2, Mad Man, desperation, 3 gold left to play things. Vystari plus either BRO or Bombaster is a good draw there. Leaves me with defenders and L3 Drakk, not hard to maxband.

Tech Kidnapping to deal with Immortals (won’t kill them, but swinging for 6 will do a lot of damage)

Wow, what a garbage Desperation draw.


#14
CarpeGuitarrem

I think you did something wrong with the spreadsheet. Based on what is shown, I think you hit discard draw accidentally after casting desperation, then tried to fix it by moving things back to the draw and hit draw 3 times.


#15
Zhavier

Exactly that, accidentally hit Draw/Discard instead of Draw 1, then tried to Undo and then did loads of copypasting back into the deck and discard. I forgot to check the generated output to fix it. Did I miss something? I think I definitely forgot to fix my starting hand.


#16

P1T6


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Nether Drain
Nether Drain


STARTING HAND
Now!
Graveyard
Bone Collector 3/3
Pestering Haunt
Hyperion


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Sacrifice the Weak
Thieving Imp


NextHand

Graveyard
Nether Drain
Now!
Deteriorate
Bone Collector 3/3


Tech 2 card(s)
Draw from technician
Get Paid - ($9)
Hyperion - ($4)
Summon Garth - ($2)
Skeleton token - ($1)
Hyperion kills Drakk, Garth level 3, my base takes 1 damage, I draw
Worker - ($0)
Pestering Haunt
Geiger kills Calypso Vystari

Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton 1/1+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: lvl 3 Garth 1/3
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • lvl 5 Geiger 3/2
  • Hyperion 4/4
  • Pestering Haunt 1/1
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 1

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 7
  • Disc: 0
    Gold:
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

Having no tech II on next turn shouldn't be that bad, with BCs, Graveyard and Nether Drain to play. At worst I'll save some money for a big T8. Maxing Geiger was a smart play but Nether Drain should help me finding out a way to use my maxbands anyway.

After draw: luckily (I guess ?) I drew no tech II at all. Even if CarpeGuitarrem chooses to ping anything else, say Hyperion (+ some damage), I can raise a Tricycloid from discard. Else, the usual BC + Now! + Graveyard. The situation seems pretty good overall, especially knowing I won’t face Tech IIs or Kidnapping on next turn.


#17

P2T6


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Bloodrage Ogre
Bombaster


WORKERS
Pillage
Scorch
Makeshift Rambaster
Careless Musketeer
Ember Sparks


NextHand

Mad Man
Flame Arrow


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($10)
Bloodburn your Tech 2 down, your base takes 2
Summon Bloodrage Ogre - ($8)
Summon Bombaster - ($6)
Tech II – Fire - ($2)
Summon Jaina - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 0, reshuffle, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Bloodrage Ogre 3/2a
  • :psfist: Elite: Bombaster 3/2
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Jaina Stormborne (sparkshot) L1 2/3
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Bloodburn (2 runes)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 19
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5
  • :heart: Heroes' Hall HP: 4

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 7
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

I wonder, if I could have gotten one more damage onto Tech II earlier? Not much hope of winning now, I’m afraid. I daresay Bloodburn was a mistake, even though it looked good this time.

I’m out of luck when it comes to Marto’s tech 2 now, but I lose if another Hyperion comes out. It’s probably all futile, though. I couldn’t build up enough board presence. I probably went too aggro and didn’t get to capitalize on Drakk enough.


#18

"P1T7


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Now!
Bone Collector 3/3
Deteriorate
Graveyard
Nether Drain
Hyperion


WORKERS
Skeletal Archery
Jandra, the Negator
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
Sacrifice the Weak
Thieving Imp


NextHand

Nether Drain
Skeleton Javelineer
Temporal Distorsion
Bone Collector 3/3


Discard

Now!
Nether Drain
Hyperion
Deteriorate


Tech 0 card(s)
Tech 1 card
Get Paid - ($10)
Rebuild Tech II
Bone Collector - ($8)
Graveyard - ($6)
Now! on Bone Collector - ($5)
Collector trades with Ogre, goes to Graveyard, a skeleton arrives
Garth creates another skeleton
Midband Garth - ($4)
Garth kills Bombaster
Hyperion kills Jaina, we both draw, Garth lvl 6
Geiger, active Skeleton and Haunt break your tech II
Nether Drain Geiger -> Garth maxbands, raising an Argonaut from discard

Float ($4)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Argonaut 3/4+A
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Skeleton 1/1
  • :pschip: Technician: Skeleton 1/1
  • :target: Lookout:
    In Play:
  • lvl 3 Geiger 2/2
  • Hyperion 4/2
  • Pestering Haunt 1/1
  • lvl 7 Garth 3/4
  • Skeleton 1/1
  • Graveyard 3hp (Bone Collector)
    Buildings:
  • :heart: Base HP: 17
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 2
  • Disc: 4
    Gold:
  • Gold: 4
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

Things should be fine, even Kidnapping doesn’t bother me that much as I finally managed to play Graveyard.

"


#19

Woof.

Yeah, that’s too much for me to ever deal with. GG!


#20

GG !
After reading you thoughts, I was surprised you chose to favor Bloodburn over Tech II on T3 (skipping Dog or midbanding, the former being probably better). If you read my own, you saw that I didn’t patrol as expected, and you hit hard at the right time, but in such a good position, you had no need of a bonus damage per turn. Teching as soon as T3 with a two-cards draw after reshuffle means you had serious chances to drop a Tech II on T4, something I could hardly counter at all, especially if those had haste (Blood or Anarchy).

@zhavier


#21

I was worried that I wouldn’t hit tech 2 quick enough to be meaningful, but I’d agree that Bloodburn wasn’t strong enough of a reversal against your potential threat. What I really didn’t factor in was just outright skipping a worker as you note, which would have also cycled me faster.