Yeah, I feel you on wanting the rank bold, but I can’t think of a better way to make the rank and name visually distinct either. I’ll take a look at Oni when I get to him.
Edit: @thehug0naut, where did the name “Spinal Toss” come from? I can’t picture in my head what that move would look like from the name, and all that’s coming to mind is that thing in one of the Metal Gear games (not sure which, I haven’t played any of them) where you can rip someone’s spine out as a finisher… Obviously not what was intended. I was thinking that a name inspired by judo would make sense because Onimaru is clearly not Japanese or anything (though because there isn’t a Japan in the FS universe I think using a literal judo move’s name might be worse than translating the same name into English).
Edit 2: Added a character index to the first post. Probably overkill, but if/when we start adding new characters from Codex it’ll be helpful to find their posts since they’ll almost certainly be buried in the middle of the topic. Even before then, now all someone has to do to find a specific character is jump to the first post, open the index, then click the link (3 clicks) instead of scrolling awkwardly and possibly having to wait for sections to load every so often.
I think it was from one of the old forum discussions about v3 changes, possibly suggested as a name for an Oni 9 throw with knockdown. One of those “I’ll keep a note of that” moments. I’m not precious about it or anything, so feel free suggest something different.
Edit: thing that didnt work
Character index looks great man! Though I wasn’t keen on it reloading when I click on it. Turns out #TheresAHackForThat! If we make each character heading like this: <h1 id='heading--grave'>Grave</h1>
Then add this to the link: #heading--grave
Then it will jump to the place rather than reloading! I’ve set Grave to work like this for now for testing purposes.
Edit edit: I got it working for most of the cast, but it seemed to stop working for Gwen / Ven / Zane a bunch so I went back to the standard way of linking.
I adjusted the order because Jokers are always put at the end of any lists of ranks or combat options on the official cards.
Also, I had an idea about how to adjust the formatting so that the ranks can be bold. Here’s a mockup, let me know what you think:
Mockup
7*Bag of Tricks [End of Turn]
If this is your only card in hand, put up to three non-7, non-Joker cards from your discard pile on top of your deck in any order, then discard this card.
AASurprise Gift [During Combat]
17(3) damage —> 15(2) damage
Honestly, I think I prefer the current style over this one, but since it’s the first alternative format I’ve thought of that I didn’t immediately reject I decided you might want to see it and decide for yourself.
In light of multiple people agreeing that we need to test the consensus changes before doing any more theorizing, I thought it would be a good idea to have a way for players to see who’s willing to test each character, both to make scheduling tests for specific matchups easier and to see if a character doesn’t have any testers yet.
Which characters can you play as for testing?
You can vote for as many as you want, and you can change your votes at any time!
We’ll also need to figure out how to play without rules enforcement, since I’m guessing a lot of the players who played back in the days before rules enforcement was added have drifted away from the community and been replaced with new players who have only ever played with it on.
I consider myself competent in all characters and I most certainly will play most if given a chance. However, I am very lacking in raw experience and MU knowledge outside of my favourite characters so I voted very conservativly.
Fight me, and I’ll add your corpse to my newest art installation titled “50 shades of submission”
Thread necromancy question: Which character and/or matchup do you think is the most important to test in order to say that the proposed changes are heading in the right direction?
Totally in agreement. Zane changes will be by far the most meta defining since he dominates most characters so thoroughly. I’d like to see them also tested against Grave since we don’t plan to change him at all.
Imo the following list of mus are the most lopsided in the game. The top set of four are more lopsided than the 12 that follow.
Geiger/Quince
Geiger/Midori
Arg/Oni
Degrey/Oni
Arg/Lum
BBB/Midori
Geiger/Rook
Gloria/Arg
Gwen/Perse
Lum/Ven
Lum/BBB
Sets/Perse
Troq/Zane
Val/Ven
Zane/Gloria
BBB/Rook (edited in since I had gloria/zane twice)
That is 16 mus out of 170 non-mirror mus. So we are doing pretty well. But imo the above mus are all 6.5+ at expert level.
Really appreciate the list making. I definitely feel I could add a few others but that makes sense, there are a lot of MUs and it’s hard to explore all of them.
The shortlist at the top is probably the most useful for the purposes of testing as exhaustive testing is unlikely to an option at this point.
If I could add only one match to the “top” 4 I would include Rook BBB which can only be appropriately described as terribad/near unwinnable/fuck you satanbot.
Interesting. The Geiger matchups don’t show nearly as lopsided in my data analysis as you’re suggesting, but the Oni matchups definitely do. I wonder what the difference is.
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