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Codex Newb Peace/Truth/Finesse vs Dreamfire Mono-Black


#1

@Dreamfire

"P1T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Traffic Director
Arrest
Jail
Spectral Aven
Bluecoat Musketeer


WORKERS
W1 - Bluecoat Musketeer


NextHand

Porkhand Magistrate
Building Inspector
Manufactured Truth
Lawful Search
Reputable Newsman


Discard

Spectral Aven
Arrest
Jail


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($4)
Worker - ($3)
General Onimaru - ($1)
Traffic Director - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Traffic Director (1/1)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • General Onimaru, lvl 1 (2/3)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5
Thoughts

Good opening split as P1. TD turn one, lawful search turn 2. depending on his first unit, might drop a manufactured truth - but can also use a building inspector.

strategy: reputable newsman and free speech to reduce effectiveness of strong black spells and abilities, while rushing nimble fencer and such for baord control.

"


#2

P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Graveyard
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeleton Javelineer
Jandra, the Negator
Summon Skeletons


WORKERS
Poisonblade Rogue


NextHand

Skeletal Archery
Thieving Imp
Deteriorate
Pestering Haunt
Sacrifice the Weak


Discard

Summon Skeletons
Skeleton Javelineer
Graveyard


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Jandra - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Jandra, the Negator (3/3A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 6
Thoughts

The most straightforward play here is Garth and two skellies. But if Codex Newb has Arrest he can get an easy hero kill, and then drop a Building Inspector to mitigate my gold advantage.
Could be interesting to play a backline Poisonblade Rogue, protected by a patrolling hero… except that it would fall hard against Manufactured Truth on the Traffic Director, gimping the hero before Oni goes in for the kill.
I could also play Jandra (in SQL, to beat Manufactured Truth) and float 1 gold. Then I could add Thieving Imp and a hero next turn. Yeah, let’s go with that.


#3

"P1T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Nimble Fencer
Nimble Fencer


STARTING HAND
Manufactured Truth
nimble fencer
Spectral Aven
Arrest
Lawful Search
Nimble Fencer


WORKERS
W1 - Bluecoat Musketeer
W2 - Porkhand Magistrate


NextHand

Jail
Arrest
Nimble Fencer
Lawful Search
Spectral Aven


Discard

Reputable Newsman
Nimble Fencer
Manufactured Truth


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
tech 1 - ($3)
Lawful Search, look at your hand, draw a card - ($2)
…Sk Arch
…TI
…Det
…PH
…StW
Building Inspector - ($1)
Traffic Director pings your base to 19

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: General Onimaru, lvl 1 (2/3+A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Traffic Director (1/1)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
Thoughts

Give his hand, better to patrol Oni and force him to det my Inspector, go down a card turn 2 - generally a bad idea.

plan is to use NF to offset slow start from Blue, and possibly arrest next turn on a big patroller should he choose to put one out. If he patrols a hero, Oni will get them.

with 7 gold, he would have to gg, 7, worker, 6, vandy, 4, max vandy 0 - to boost jandra in order to get the Oni kill, in which case the lvls fizzle, and i start the free speech cycle after that, not to mentioned he’d have to skip Tech 1 a turn, which P2 does NOT want.

at the end of the day, Lawful search was the real mvp, guarenteeing the NF draw T3, pluys, i can counter his Jandra pretty well.

"


#4

P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Dark Pact
Bone Collector


STARTING HAND
Skeletal Archery
Pestering Haunt
Thieving Imp
Sacrifice the Weak
Deteriorate


WORKERS
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeletal Archery


NextHand

Summon Skeletons
Sacrifice the Weak
Skeleton Javelineer
Deteriorate


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Vandy - ($4)
Deteriorate Building Inspector, you get 1 gold
Thieveing Imp, discard #2 - ($1)
Tech 1 - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, reshuffle, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Jandra, the Negator (3/3A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: Vandy lvl 1 (3/3)
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Thieving Imp (2/2)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

That early Lawful Search-induced reshuffle makes me think Codex Newb must’ve teched Boot Camp. Overall he seems to be going for a pretty aggressive plan, which Finesse could definitely fit into.
I could go for card advantage against that, by playing Thieveing Imp and teching a Vandy spell. Or I could go for some aggression of my own, by building a heroes’ hall and teching Lich’s Bargain…
But that wouldn’t work as long as Jandra is around. I’ll keep it in mind as an option for next turn.


#5

By the way, @codexnewb, should your tech 1 really cost 2 gold? I was under the impression that neutral doesn’t count as multi-color for the 1st building cost penalty.


#6

ur right, it does not.


#7

Interesting, I thought that was just if Neutral was your main starter deck? i’ll look up and see if i can find anything.


#8

either way, ill just float 1 if indeed you guys are right. now turn change for me.


#9

this explains it well. let me know if this is good enough. ill edit to float 1 gold.


#10

page 12 of the rulebook:

[quote] Tech
Your tech buildings allow you to make units, and also sometimes upgrades and buildings. As usual, your base itself lets you play tech 0 units, upgrades, and buildings. Your tech I building is very lenient in that it lets you play tech I units, upgrades, and buildings of any spec! The catch is that if your heroes are more than one color, the first tech building or add-on you build costs 1 extra gold.
(Neutral heroes from the starter set don’t count as being a color, so you won’t pay the extra gold with a team of red / red / neutral but you would with red / red / green.) [/quote]

https://tesera.ru/images/items/837523/codex_rulebook_46.pdf


#11

"P1T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Star Crossed Starlet
Star Crossed Starlet


STARTING HAND
Spectral Aven
Nimble Fencer
Jail
Arrest
Lawful Search
Arrest


WORKERS
W1 - Bluecoat Musketeer
W2 - Porkhand Magistrate
W3 - Jail


NextHand

Star Crossed Starlet
Reputable Newsman
Nimble Fencer
Manufactured Truth


Discard

Lawful Search
Arrest
Nimble Fencer
Spectral Aven


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float 1 gold + scav gold + discard #2 - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
Lawful Search, look at your hand and draw a card - ($6)
…Sum Sk
…StW
…Sk Jav
…Det
Arrest Jandra, disabled and sidelined (4)
Oni trades with Vandy
traffic director pings your base to 18
River (2)

Float ($2)
Discard 2, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: River, lvl 1, (2/3+A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Traffic Director (1/1)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 2
  • Disc: 4
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 2
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

Interesting strategy. ill have to use reputable newsman to avoid whatever spell set he has given his next hero. probably garth with DG. i know he doesnt have anything to clear my hero anyways. again Lawful Search is the real mvp. it reshuffles my draw pile, keeps my cycle going well, and keeps good cards in my deck instead of my discard.

**after edits, i guess trading Oni was always the original strategy. I’ll bring out River instead since the mirrors are so susceptible to deteriorate. same strategy for next turn, flood with tech 1 units.

"


#12

Err, not sure how you paid for that Arrest?


#13

lol, my bad. allow me to edit. one of those, planning two turns and take the best of both by accident.


#14

okay, adjusted. sorry about that. went with idea #1. i should know by now to always just go with my gut.


#15

Don’t worry about it, I’m just glad I’m not facing a board full of angry soldiers!

P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Voidblocker
Voidblocker


STARTING HAND
Skeleton Javelineer
Sacrifice the Weak
Deteriorate
Summon Skeletons


WORKERS
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons


NextHand

Graveyard
Pestering Haunt
Dark Pact
Bone Collector
Voidblocker


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
Tech 2 Demonology - ($2)
Orpal - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 4, reshuffle, draw 1


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Thieving Imp (2/2A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: Orpal (2/3)
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Jandra, the Negator (3/3)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 18
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Demonology)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

Can’t say I’m too bummed that Vandy’s dead, with Dark Pact still in my deck. But I’m not left with too many options this turn. The spells in my hand are useless, and skeletons are likely to get cleared by Discord now that River’s in play.
Guess that means I’m teching up, but to what? Necro is out, if I’m too scared to play skeletons. Disease has a bunch of efficient cards, but I think Demons might hold up better against a virtuoso onslaught and/or Peace machine.
Definitely going to play Vandy next turn and dig for those Voidblockers. In the meantime I’ll play Orpal as a blocker, since he’s a pain to deal with.
Hmm, should remember to watch out for Hallucination taking out my big guys…


#16

"P1T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Maestro
Grounded Guide


STARTING HAND
Star Crossed Starlet
Manufactured Truth
Reputable Newsman
Nimble Fencer


WORKERS
W1 - Bluecoat Musketeer
W2 - Porkhand Magistrate
W3 - Jail


NextHand

Building Inspector (1/1)
Star Crossed Starlet


Discard

Lawful Search
Arrest
Nimble Fencer
Spectral Aven
Star Crossed Starlet (3/2)
Manufactured Truth
Maestro
Grounded Guide


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float 2 - ($9)
skip worker
Nimble Fencer - ($7)
Star Crossed Starlet - ($5)
Reputable Newsman, no zero cost spells - ($3)
expensive manufactured truth RN into SCS - ($1)
copy SCS kills Theiving Imp
real SCS trades with Orpal, River to L3
River, Nimble Fencer, Traffic Director, kills your tech 1, your base to 16.
end of turn, Rep Newsman reverts to his former self with 2 damage.

Float ($1)
Discard 0, draw 2


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Traffic Director (1/1)
  • River, lvl 3, (2/4)
  • Nimble Fencer (2/3)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 8
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

takinga huge risk here. i dont think he has tech 2’s already, maybe 1 at the most -unles if he intentionally skippe tech 1 all along, and ahs been loading up on tech 2’s. im betting on taking out his dark pacts and deteriorates, along with tech 1’s for a turn.

teching Maestro and GG for benefit in 2 turns.

"


#17

Sorry to be a drag… but I don’t think Newsman should be alive. While it’s a copy of SCS it’s a 3/2, so when it takes 2 damage from Imp, it should die right away. No chance to revert back.


#18

that’s right. ill keep turn the same and remove RNM to discard.


#19

Well, that’s definitely good news for Vandy!

P2T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Soul Stone
Sickness


STARTING HAND
Graveyard
Pestering Haunt
Dark Pact
Bone Collector
Voidblocker
Voidblocker (DP)
Deteriorate (DP)


WORKERS
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
Bone Collector


NextHand

Dark Pact
Sacrifice the Weak
Voidblocker
Skeleton Javelineer


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($8)
Rebuild tech 1
Vandy - ($6)
Dark Pact, my base to 14
Worker - ($5)
Voidblocker - ($2)
Pestering Haunt
Graveyard - ($0)
Jandra kills Nimble Fencer

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 2


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Voidblocker (2/6+A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Vandy lvl 1 (2/3)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Jandra, the Negator (3/1)
  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)
  • Graveyard (-/3)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 14
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Demonology)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

Big turn for Codex Newb, but I don’t feel too beaten up. He went way down on cards, and his board isn’t that strong. Most importantly, he’s behind on workers and tech, and I’m ready to turtle up.
In fact, I think I’m now officially stalling to tech 3 and Zarramonde. So I’m teching a Soul Stone to help my Voidblockers stick around (thank goodness River’s midband doesn’t work on them), and a Sickness to help mop up his guys.
I’m debating whether or not I should build a Graveyard, given that I don’t really want to keep Jandra around. I’ll Dark Pact first and then make up my mind.

Hmm, I could actually use Deteriorate to get rid of Jandra myself, to keep her from bothering me. But I probably don’t need to. Codex Newb’s Arrest is still in his discard and Discord doesn’t trigger her effect. And even if he somehow gets to her, it’ll only kill the Haunt. So yeah, I’ll build the Graveyard. It thins the deck, and I like the idea of replaying Voidblocker ad nauseam. If I can get a Soul Stone on him too, he’ll be an absolute frustrating nightmare!


#20

"P1T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Dreamscape
hallucination


STARTING HAND
Star Crossed Starlet
Building Inspector (1/1)


WORKERS
W1 - Bluecoat Musketeer
W2 - Porkhand Magistrate
W3 - Jail
W4 - Building Inspector (1/1)


NextHand

Nimble Fencer
Nimble Fencer


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($8)
Worker - ($7)
tech 2 finesse - ($3)
Star Crossed Starlet - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 0, reshuffle, draw 2


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Traffic Director (1/1+A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Star Crossed Starlet (3/2)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: River, lvl 3, (2/4)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Finesse)

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 2
  • Deck: 10
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

it is over, what can men do against such wreckless hate?

"