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[Casual] charnel_mouse (Green/White) vs. FrozenStorm (Purple)


#21

No, it’s fine, keep your turn up! I thought “sides” referred to decks rather than turn order.


#22

Usually we say “swap sides” or “swap positions” here to mean swap P1/P2. People usually don’t swap cards (as they have “custom builds” of three heroes they have a preference for) but in mono-matchup sparring like this we do it sometimes. We’d usually say “swap decks” or “swap colors” for that, but I totally see where the confusion comes from!


#23

P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Verdant Tree
Forest’s Favor
Spore Shambler
Merfolk Prospector
Rich Earth


WORKERS
Verdant Tree


NextHand

Tiger Cub
Ironbark Treant
Rampant Growth
Young Treant
Playful Panda


Discard

Forest’s Favor
Rich Earth
Spore Shambler


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Merfolk Prospector - ($3)
Tech I - ($2)
Calamandra Moss - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Calamandra L1 2/3/1 (/+1 leader)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Merfolk Prospector 1/1
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:
*

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
Thoughts

Similar plan to last time, go for Overpower and Resist. Maybe Tigers if Immortals or the Mox become a pain.


#24

Game 2 Player 1, Turn 2

P2 Green vs P1 Purple

Starting Hand

Tinkerer
Forgotten Fighter
Temporal Research
Nullcraft
Fading Argonaut

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (5)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Argonaut, Stewardess of the Undone


Main:

  • Fading Argonaut (3)
  • Worker (2)
  • Tech 1 (1)
Workers

Forgotten Fighter, Neo Plexus

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 3 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Hardened Mox (1/1+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician: Fading Argonaut (2/3 fade 3)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:


Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6

End of Turn Hand

Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Time Spiral
Argonaut
Nullcraft

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Gonna go argo and stewardess, try to keep the board dominated…



#25

P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Centaur
Ferocity


STARTING HAND
Playful Panda
Rampant Growth
Ironbark Treant
Tiger Cub
Young Treant


WORKERS
Verdant Tree
Ironbark Treant


NextHand

Young Treant
Tiger Cub
Centaur
Ferocity
Rich Earth


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
Worker - ($5)
Calamandra levels to midband - ($3)
Merfolk Prospector exhausts for gold - ($4)
Playful Panda and Wisp - ($2)

Float ($2)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Calamandra L3 3/4/1 (/+1 leader)
  • :psfist: Elite: Wisp 1/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra, +1/ elite)
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Merfolk Prospector 1/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)
  • Playful Panda 2/2 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 2
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

This should leave me enough gold for Tech II, the Centaur, and Ferocity next turn. There’s only three damage on the enemy board right now, and the only hasted attack is one from Nullcraft, so I think Calamandra is safe outside of Origin Story.


#26

Game 2 Player 1, Turn 3

P2 Green vs P1 Purple

Starting Hand

Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Time Spiral
Argonaut
Nullcraft

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (6)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Seer x2
Argonaut, Stewardess of the Undone


Main:

  • Argonaut (3)
  • Nullcraft, kill Prospector (1)
  • Worker (0)
Workers

Tinkerer, Forgotten Fighter, Neo Plexus

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 3 rs Draw 1
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Hardened Mox (1/1+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician: Fading Argonaut (2/3 fade 2)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Argonaut (3/4)
  • Nullcraft (1/1)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7

End of Turn Hand

Temporal Research
Stewardess of the Undone
Plasmodium
Time Spiral

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

I’m drawing into TR, so I’m taking 2x Seer. Stewardess isn’t as interesting against mid-Cala. Could also do Plasmo + TR and skip worker if I really feel like it



#27

P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Barkcoat Bear
Barkcoat Bear


STARTING HAND
Ferocity
Young Treant
Rich Earth
Centaur
Tiger Cub


WORKERS
Verdant Tree
Ironbark Treant
Rich Earth


NextHand

Merfolk Prospector
Forest’s Favor
Rampant Growth
Centaur


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Tech II Feral - ($4)
Ferocity - ($2)
Playful Panda exhausts the Mox
Calamandra kills the Fading Argonaut, you draw a card
Tiger Cub - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite: Tiger Cub 3/2 (Resist 1 from Calamandra, +1 elite, Swift Strike from Ferocity)
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Wisp 0/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Calamandra L3 3/4
  • Playful Panda 2/2 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Feral)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 5
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

Ah, I forgot the worker cost / Nullcraft. No Centaur, then.


#28

Cal should be at 3/2 after scrapping with the Fargo (the Swift Strike awarded by Ferocity doesn’t apply to heroes).


#29

Thanks. I might need to redo the turn in that case.


#30

Is there a forum opinion on how to deal with end-of-turn draw if you have to redo your turn? Keep the same and knock a few off the end if you discard less? Completely redo?


#31

In a tournament you would use Revision History to return to the previous turn, fix the mistake, then discard and draw a new hand. In a casual game anything is okay if your opponent agrees to it, but the tournament way is always fine if you’re unsure.


#32

General consensus is indeed just re-do; you act as if you have no knowledge of what comes after the error, correct it, and proceed along a new future path that is unknown like usual.


#33

Thanks to both of you, that makes sense.

P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Barkcoat Bear
Barkcoat Bear


STARTING HAND
Ferocity
Young Treant
Rich Earth
Centaur
Tiger Cub


WORKERS
Verdant Tree
Ironbark Treant
Rich Earth


NextHand

Forest’s Favor
Barkcoat Bear
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler
Young Treant


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Tech II Feral - ($4)
Centaur - ($1)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, draw 3, reshuffle, draw 2


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Centaur 3/4/1 (Overpower, Resist 1 from Calamandra, /+1 leader)
  • :psfist: Elite: Playful Panda 3/2 (Resist 1 from Calamandra, +1/ elite)
  • :ps_: Scavenger: Wisp 0/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)
  • :pschip: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Calamandra L3 3/4

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Feral)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

Ah, I forgot a gold somewhere, so no playing of both tech cards this turn for me.


#34

Game 2 Player 1, Turn 4

P2 Green vs P1 Purple

Starting Hand

Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Time Spiral
Argonaut
Nullcraft

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (7)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Unphase, Argonaut
Seer x2
Argonaut, Stewardess of the Undone


Main:

  • Vir, check topdeck, not what I wanted (5)
  • Nullcraft, Mox and Argonaut kill Centaur
  • Plasmodium (3)
  • Hero’s Hall (1)
  • Worker (0)
Workers

Time Spiral, Tinkerer, Forgotten Fighter, Neo Plexus

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 3 rs Draw 1
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Fading Argonaut (2/3+1armor fade 1)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician: Vir (2/3 lvl 1)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Argonaut (3/1)
  • Nullcraft (1/1)
  • Hardened Mox (1/1)
  • Plasmodium (4/4 forecast 3)

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8

End of Turn Hand

Seer
Battle Suits
Seer
Unphase

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Well I should be able to bring the noise next turn, so I’ll clear things out best as possible and hope he doesn’t tower up.



#35

P2T4


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Feral Strike
Dinosize


STARTING HAND
Rampant Growth
Forest’s Favor
Spore Shambler
Barkcoat Bear
Young Treant


WORKERS
Verdant Tree
Ironbark Treant
Rich Earth
Forest’s Favor


NextHand

Barkcoat Bear
Tiger Cub
Ferocity
Merfolk Prospector


Discard

Rampant Growth
Centaur
Young Treant
Spore Shambler
Feral Strike
Dinosize


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid + float - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Barkcoat Bear - ($4)
Rampant Growth on Playful Panda - ($2)
Playful Panda kills Fading Argonaut
Calamandra kills Vir and hits maxband, you draw
Argarg and Wisp - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Wisp 0/1/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra, +1 leader)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Wisp 0/1 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Calamandra L5 4/5
  • Argagarg L1 1/3
  • Barkcoat Bear 4/4 (Resist 3, 2+1 from Calamandra)
  • Playful Panda 2/2 (Resist 1 from Calamandra)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Feral)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 6

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 9
Thoughts

With a Plasmodium coming out this late, I’m assuming he must have some time-rune manipulation in mind. The only other thing I’ve seen come out is Argonaut, so he might be planning to hit really hard in the next two turns, with Geiger coming out from the Hero’s Hall for his spells. Calamandra should be safe to kill heroes hiding in the back, so I’ll tech in her ultimate, and Arg’s big buff spell in case she goes down.


#36

Game 2 Player 1, Turn 5

P2 Green vs P1 Purple

Starting Hand

Battle Suits
Tinkerer
Time Spiral
Argonaut
Nullcraft

Events of Turn:


Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (8)
  • Tech 2 cards in (except turn 1)
All Teched Cards

Now!, Research & Development
Unphase, Argonaut
Seer x2
Argonaut, Stewardess of the Undone


Main:

  • Battle Suits (6)
  • Seer, move Plasmo to Forecast 1 (5)
  • Seer, Plasmo phases in (4)
  • Geiger + Midband (0)
  • Mox kills SQL
  • Argonaut kills techn, you get a card
  • Plasmo and Nullcraft kill Cala, Geiger maxbands and flickers Argonaut to full HP
Workers

Time Spiral, Tinkerer, Forgotten Fighter, Neo Plexus

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 2 rs Draw 2
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

Board Info:

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Tech1 HP: 5
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Argoanaut (4/4+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger: Seer (3/1)
  • :exhaust: Technician: Seer (3/1)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Max Geiger (3/4 lvl 5)
  • Nullcraft (1/1)
  • Hardened Mox (2/1)
  • Battle Suits

Economy Info:

Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8

End of Turn Hand

Argonaut
Temporal Research
Plasmodium
Now!

End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts

Just killing Cala, didn’t expect to lose Vir but that’s okay.



#37

P2T5


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Rampaging Elephant
Moss Ancient


STARTING HAND
Ferocity
Barkcoat Bear
Merfolk Prospector
Tiger Cub
Dinosize


WORKERS
Verdant Tree
Ironbark Treant
Rich Earth
Forest’s Favor
Merfolk Prospector


NextHand

Centaur
Feral Strike
Rampant Growth
Young Treant


Discard

Playful Panda
Rampaging Elephant
Tiger Cub
Moss Ancient
Dinosize
Ferocity


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($9)
Worker - ($8)
Barkcoat Bear #2 - ($4)
Dinosize on Argagarg - ($0)
Argagarg kills the Argonaut
Playful Panda tweaks the scavenger Seer’s nose, they both fall over, you get 1 gold
Barkcoat Bear #1 kills the technician Seer and Max Band Max Geiger, you draw a card, Argagarg hits midband

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


Board Info:
In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :ps_: Scavenger:
  • :pschip: Technician: Barkcoat Bear #2 5/5 (Resist 2)
  • :target: Lookout:

In Play:

  • Argagarg L3 1/4
  • Barkcoat Bear #1 5/2 (Resist 2, 3 damage)

Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Feral)

Economy Info:
Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 6

Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

I don’t think I can kill Geiger this turn, sadly, but I can wipe out the patrollers, which should slow him down. EDIT: FrozenStorm pointed out Bears are 5/5 rather than 4/4, which means I can take out Geiger and only lose the Panda. That’s much more comfortable! It does mean Argagarg is only midband, but I don’t need him until Dinosize comes back to my hand.


#38

Say I didn’t notice before, but do note Bears are 5/5, not 4/4. That means the attacking one survived on 1hp, and your patrol is slightly beefier. I imagine no changes needed then?


#39

Hmm. It might change how suicidally I attack, let me sit on it!


#40

Question for FrozenStorm

Summary

Its Turn 5, and you have yet to tech a win condition. Can I ask why?