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CAPS 2017: FrozenStorm ([Demon]/Necro/Finesse) vs. Penatronic ([Present]/Peace/Blood)


#1

GL HF @Penatronic, I’ve got quite the Gauntlet to run here in elimination matches against Moose, Eric, now you and then Bob if I have any hope of victory, but I’m going to see what can be done!

Player 1, Turn 1

P1 [Demon]/Necro/Finesse vs P2 [Present]/Peace/Blood

[details=Starting Hand]
Thieving Imp
Summon Skeletons
Poisonblade Rogue
Sacrifice the Weak
Skeleton Javelineer
[/details]

##Events of Turn:

###Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (4)
  • Tech 2 cards (except turn 1)

[details=All Teched Cards][spoiler]

[/spoiler][/details]


###Main:

  • Vandy (2)
  • Skeleton Javelineer (1)
  • Worker (0)

[details=Workers]
Thieving Imp
[/details]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 3 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

###Board Info:
####Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20

####In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton Javelineer (1/1+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

####In Play:

  • Vandy (2/3 lvl 1)

###Economy Info:

####Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 3

####Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 5

[details=End of Turn Hand]
Pestering Haunt
Jandra, the Negator
Deteriorate
Graveyard
Skeletal Archery
[/details]

[details=End of Turn Discard]
Sacrifice the Weak
Poisonblade Rogue
Summon Skeletons
[/details]

[details=My Thoughts][spoiler]
Really need an answer for Mox this game, hopefully I can find it as P1! Maybe Harmony + Dark Pact is the right way, pressure meta to keep him locked down off his Tech 2 plans (which really is I guess really his only truly great win condition, Mox + Nullcraft isn’t going to win the game). Archery and Skeleton Spam is also helpful I suppose, maybe that’ll be what we go for.

Of Course, Poisonblade Rogue is also a choice! I’m not really sure that’s what I want though, Nullcraft poses a constant threat to her life, and I don’t really want to worker anything else in this hand I don’t think… Forgotten fighter would also give him all the tempo if I SQL it… I think I’ll take a bit of risk and worker Imp, it’s not something I’ve done before but I want Rogue in the deck as an option later. If I had a way to give her haste I’d feel a lot better about this decision…
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#2

Now you get a chance to try something other than fartblocker


#3

"P2T1


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Nullcraft
Tinkerer
Neo Plexus
Fading Argonaut
Battle Suits


WORKERS
Tinkerer


NextHand

Forgotten Fighter
Temporal Research
Plasmodium
Hardened Mox


Discard

Neo Plexus
Nullcraft


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($5)
Worker - ($4)
Fargo season 3 is out guys watch that show - ($2)
battle suits - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Fargo (3/3), fading 3
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Battle Suits (upgrade)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 1
  • Disc: 2
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6
Thoughts

looks like a pretty decent split for me. not sure what path to take here compared to last game. going second I have no way of ensuring a safe hero, and I don’t want to give him a free maxband vandy, so I think I’ll go down a card instead, question is do I put down battle suits or start harassing him with nullcraft

"


#4

Haven’t watched Fargo, might have to check it out but I’m neck deep in Iron Fist right now!

Player 1, Turn 2

P1 [Demon]/Necro/Finesse vs P2 [Present]/Peace/Blood

[details=Starting Hand]
Pestering Haunt
Jandra, the Negator
Deteriorate
Graveyard
Skeletal Archery
[/details]

##Events of Turn:

###Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (5)
  • Tech 2 cards (except turn 1)

[details=All Teched Cards]
Harmony, Dark Pact
[/details]


###Main:

  • Deteriorate Fargo, Vandy kills him with a wood chipper? Seems pretty demonic. You get a card
  • Javelineer deals 1 to your base, you’re at 19
  • Midband Vandy to heal (3)
  • Pestering Haunt (3)
  • Hero’s Hall (1)
  • Worker (0)

[details=Workers]
Jandra, the Negator, Thieving Imp
[/details]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 rs Draw 4
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

###Board Info:
####Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

####In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader:
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

####In Play:

  • Vandy (3/4 lvl 3)
  • Skeleton Javelineer (1/1 javelin in hand)
  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)

###Economy Info:

####Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 0

####Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 6

[details=End of Turn Hand]
Deteriorate
Harmony
Sacrifice the Weak
Graveyard
[/details]

[details=End of Turn Discard][spoiler]

[/spoiler][/details]

[details=My Thoughts]
Let’s see where the Harmony + Dark Pact plan can go! Skipping tech 1 but why not? I’m not desperate for what’s there, Hero pressure can really help me lock him down
[/details]


#5

that was just for disposing of the body. He died from an axe.


#6

It’s not bad for a reboot of Arrow. (; Enjoy!


#7

"P2T2


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Argonaut
Eager Cadet


STARTING HAND
Forgotten Fighter
Temporal Research
Hardened Mox
Plasmodium
Time Spiral


WORKERS
Tinkerer
Temporal Research


NextHand

Argonaut
Fargo (3/3), fading 3
Forgotten Fighter
Neo Plexus
Nullcraft


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($6)
tech draw
Worker - ($5)
t1 - ($3)
mox - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, reshuffle, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Hardened Mox (2/1A), indestructable
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Battle Suits (upgrade)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7
Thoughts

I’ve rarely seen him tech shadow blade, but I don’t know if I really want to encourage him to with brave knights. crash bombers and cadets seem like bad choices against the likely bone collectors/fencers… oh wait my cadets are already 3/2.

"


#8

Let’s see where this leads us XD

Player 1, Turn 3

P1 [Demon]/Necro/Finesse vs P2 [Present]/Peace/Blood

[details=Starting Hand]
Deteriorate
Harmony
Sacrifice the Weak
Graveyard
[/details]

##Events of Turn:

###Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (6)
  • Tech 2 cards (except turn 1)

[details=All Teched Cards]
Dark Pact, Metamorphosis
Harmony, Dark Pact
[/details]


###Main:

  • Garth (4)
  • Make a skeleton (3)
  • Deteriorate Mox, it(?) chills on the sideline
  • Maxband Vandy, dooming mox and my skeleton (1)
  • Vandy and haunt break your tech 1, your base to 17hp
  • Jav smacks your base to 16hp
  • Worker (0)

[details=Workers]
Graveyard, Jandra, the Negator, Thieving Imp
[/details]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 2 Draw 4
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

###Board Info:
####Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

####In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton (3/3+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger: Garth (1/3 lvl 1)
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

####In Play:

  • Vandy (4/5 lvl 5)
  • Skeleton Javelineer (1/1 javelin in hand)
  • Pestering Haunt (1/1)

###Economy Info:

####Cards:

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 5

####Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7

[details=End of Turn Hand]
Dark Pact
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
[/details]

[details=End of Turn Discard]
Harmony
Metamorphosis
Dark Pact
Sacrifice the Weak
Deteriorate
[/details]

[details=My Thoughts][spoiler]
Well, I think primary choices here are do I want to max Vandy and threaten meta right away, or play it cool and build up Dancers? I have more cards if I opt away from Harmony, and no matter what I do Bloodlust is a serious threat, as is Kidnapping. That said, it’s reasonably likely he went for Argonaut + Cadet or something stall-worthy like that. If I went for Vandy max, I could do Garth + Skele and doom the new skele as a blocker, or doom my jav and put hurt straight to the face.

EDIT: That’s a little too crazy, there’s no way he grabbed Kidnapping (if he did he’s insane!), so I’ll just doom the skeleton that’s absorbing a blow anyway.
[/spoiler][/details]


#9

[details=Frozenstorm][quote=“FrozenStorm, post:8, topic:2560”]
, a dancer joins the party
[/quote]

you might want to remove this part, as you went another way

[/details]


#10

@zhavier

Per your comment

You’re right, thanks!


#11

Sorry I’m thinking about this turn so much, but if I haven’t lost already i definitely have to play perfectly from here on out. Also murdering vandy is totally worth skipping a worker and tech building on t2 :sweat_smile:


#12

Lol… I’ve been in your position so I know how you feel, take your time, a spot in the finals is on the line!


#13

Honestly I’m not going to be upset being done with this spec, I just threw it in there when I signed up for the tournament last minute like a week after playing codex for the first time but having no answers to heroes strategies makes this variant of soldier shinanegans weak.


#14

Definitely could benefit from Origin Story or Nether Drain (and Garth would actually be a cool sub for Drakk, more ways to raise Hyperions back!)


#15

"P2T3


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Bloodlust
Eager Cadet


STARTING HAND
Forgotten Fighter
Nullcraft
Fargo (3/3), fading 3
Neo Plexus
Argonaut


WORKERS
Tinkerer
Temporal Research
Forgotten Fighter


NextHand

Plasmodium
Time Spiral
Argonaut
Eager Cadet


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($7)
Worker - ($6)
rebuild t1
nullcraft - ($4)
nullcraft kills javlineer
fargo - ($2)
Geiger - ($0)
preempting mox being sidelined by doom trigger

Float ($0)
Discard 2, draw 3, reshuffle, draw 1


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Fargonaut (3/3A), fading 3
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: L1 Geiger (2/3), sparkshot
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Battle Suits (upgrade)
  • Nullcraft (1/1), Flying, Haste, no buff
  • Hardened Mox (2/1A), indestructable
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 16
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 4
  • Deck: 3
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 8
Thoughts

forgotten fighter is the worst card in any starter. when has anybody played this garbage. if the cap was at 3 it would get cast like once in a blue moon but as is never.

"


#16

[details=Comment on Penatronic’s Thoughts]Forgotten Fighter doesn’t get used because experienced players play around it. Like Pillage or Snapback, it warps the opponent’s gameplay just by existing (although it lacks the “I guess so” uses of those two).

I’ve also used it in conjunction with Chaos Mirror to bounce a Twilight Baron (once, in 2 tournaments of using PPA)[/details]


#17

I think this is checkmate with no tower for ya and a good draw for me, if it isn’t though it’ll be a wild finish!

Player 1, Turn 4

P1 [Demon]/Necro/Finesse vs P2 [Present]/Peace/Blood

[details=Starting Hand]
Dark Pact
Poisonblade Rogue
Skeletal Archery
Summon Skeletons
Dark Pact Metamorphosis (OMG too perfect!)
[/details]

##Events of Turn:

###Upkeep:

  • Get Gold (7)
  • Tech 2 cards (except turn 1)

[details=All Teched Cards]
Lich’s Bargain, Metamorphosis
Dark Pact, Metamorphosis
Harmony, Dark Pact
[/details]


###Main:

  • Dark Pact, rs draw 2 my base to 18
  • Haunt pings your base to 15hp
  • Metamorphosis, haunt dies, Garth maxbands but there’s nothing in my discard pile so that fizzles… (1)
  • Garth and Vandy hit your base to 4hp
  • Make a skeleton (0)

[details=Workers]
Graveyard, Jandra, the Negator, Thieving Imp
[/details]

  • :pspurpleshield: Patrol as below
  • Discard 4 Draw 5
  • Tech 2 cards before my next turn

###Board Info:
####Buildings:

  • :heart: Base HP: 18
  • Hero’s Hall HP: 4

####In Patrol:

  • :psblueshield: Squad Leader: Skeleton (1/1+1armor)
  • :psfist: Elite:
  • :pspig: Scavenger:
  • :exhaust: Technician:
  • :target: Lookout:

####In Play:

  • Vandy (6/7 lvl 5 demonic invisible)
  • Garth (5/6 lvl 7 demonoic invisible)

###Economy Info:

####Cards:

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 5

####Gold:

  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 7

[details=End of Turn Hand]
Harmony
Metamorphosis
Deteriorate
Sacrifice the Weak
Lich’s Bargain
[/details]

[details=End of Turn Discard]
Dark Pact
Dark Pact
Metamorphosis
Pestering Haunt
Summon Skeletons
Skeletal Archery
Poisonblade Rogue
[/details]

[details=My Thoughts][spoiler]
If I tech another Meta, I’m 46% to draw it with DP (64% to draw it or the other DP, which with a second DP draw brings me up to 61% total to draw Meta, so pretty good odds really). Let’s go through other situtations to see what else I might want to tech…

If I don’t draw it, but I get StW:
Can StW to kill Nullcraft and then Vandy kills Fargo with no Nullcraft retalliation, lay out 3 skeletons to block, get the tech 1 so Meta doesn’t waste Garth maxband

If I don’t draw it or StW, but I draw deteriorate:
Can deteriorate Fargo to safely kill it with Vandy (3hp vandy won’t die to Drakk mid + nullcraft, especially if I don’t leave Geiger a way to suicide.

If I draw harmony + whatever else I tech this turn:
I have Summon Skele in hand, I can do Garth Skele + Summon Skele + Archery. Or, If I tech Lich’s bargain, I can sub archery / SS for that. So Lich’s Bargain I think is the other tech.

I should probably expect Now! was teched, though… Still, 61% to get to a Meta is worth doing, as I’ll have him on 4 base HP if I do it, close enough for double dark pact death. But wait… If I do take that shot… He will have enough with Drak midband + like Neo Plexus to kill both Garth AND Vandy patrolling… so I can’t worker with it, I’ll have to make a skeleton to protect Vandy…

Ok, here we go with the draw!

OMG The BEST!

So wait a minute, Vandy and Garth are invisible and he has no tower… so I can just guarantee a win next turn if I don’t patrol them? He has 3 + 2 + 1 + 2/3 for Geiger on the board, he can flicker Nullcraft for 1 more, so thats 10, but he only has 8 gold, the most he could possibly bring from hand without Drakk is 8gold for Argo x2 + Now! x2, which would have to be ALL he teched AND he can’t max geiger / flicker nullcraft for that, AND he wouldn’t be building a tower which he HAS to do to not lose… So I just need to not patrol anything but the skeleton and I guarantee a win? I think that’s right! In fact, I think I don’t actually want to Dark Pact him then, so let’s not.

Yea I think this is just pretty solidly GG, woo!

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#18

Pretty much, gg.

In retrospect the early battle suits play was greedy. Not surprising, mono rook and mono vandy were all my losses with this spec with relatively bad early game heroes and no good anti hero tech


#19

GG WP! Yea, Rook and Vandy are tough to deal with on that setup, and the Suits play was not quite enough defense.

@EricF Looks like @Bob199 and me for the finals, with Bob going first correct? I got one more battle to win in the gauntlet here to stop my “always the bridesmaid” streak in CAS!


#20

I am wishing you luck frozen :smiley: I hope you are enjoying the dark side :smiling_imp: