zhavier
January 12, 2019, 2:53am
285
P1T5
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
STARTING HAND
WORKERS
NextHand
Free Speech
Tech 2 card(s)
Float ($0)
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader : Overeager Cadet 2/2
Elite : Reputable Newsman 1/3, Naming 8
Scavenger : Overeager Cadet 2/2
Technician : Mirror 0/1
Lookout :
In Play:
Flagstone Garrison
Quince 1/3
Buildings:
Economy Info: Cards:
Gold:
I see one cadet played in your turn, but two patrolled. Did you chain your draw really nice, or is one of those not actually there?
zhavier
January 12, 2019, 4:31pm
287
Chained my draw, drew the last card in deck with the second cadet
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P2 Black w/ 1g Deteriorate vs P1 Blue
Starting Hand
Skeletal Archery
Get Gold (8)
Tech 2 cards in (except for turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Plague Lab, Abomination
Vandy (6)
Plague Spitter kills SQL Jandra kills techn and overpowers to kill scav, you get a card and a gold Graveyard (4)
Imp and Orpal kill newsman, Imp to graveyard Worker (3)
Workers
Skeleton Javelineer, Summon Skeletons, Poisonblade Rogue
Discard 2 rs Draw 4
Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Tech1 HP: 2
Tech2 HP: 5 DISEASE
Jandra the Negator (3/3)
Plague Spitter (3/1)
Orpal (2/4 lvl 6)
Graveyard (3hp, holding Thieving Imp)
End of Turn Hand
Deteriorate
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Woof, nice Garrison in to start and a perfect draw chain for him. Guessing he teched at least one DS, and then either the other FS, the other DS, or the other Garrison. Best to grab some horde control then, Abom and Plague Lab sound like a good plan, with option to tech up next turn and roll with either Zarra or Lords. This will be a close game for sure!
zhavier
January 12, 2019, 9:41pm
289
"P1T6
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
STARTING HAND
WORKERS
NextHand
Building Inspector
Tech 2 card(s)
Float ($0)
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader : Tax Collector 2/3+A
Elite : Tax Collector 3/3
Scavenger : Overeager Cadet 2/2
Technician : Scribe 1/3
Lookout : Scribe 1/3
In Play:
Flagstone Garrison
Quince 1/3
Overeager Cadet 2/2
Traffic Director 1/1
Buildings:
Economy Info: Cards:
Gold:
Thief! I think you may have stabilized properly
P2 Black w/ 1g Deteriorate vs P1 Blue
Starting Hand
Deteriorate
Get Gold (8)
Tech 2 cards in (except for turn 1)
All Teched Cards
Plague Lab, Abomination
Spitter hits SQL for -2/2 after armor and goes to my graveyard Jandra kills SQL and overpowers to kill scav, you get a gold
Midband Vandy and kill lookout (8)
Resurrect Plague Spitter (5)
Gorgon (2)
Vandy to level 4 (1)
Worker (0)
Workers
Pestering Haunt, Skeleton Javelineer, Summon Skeletons, Poisonblade Rogue
Discard 2 Draw 2 rs Draw 2
Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Tech1 HP: 2
Tech2 HP: 5 DISEASE
Jandra the Negator (3/3)
Vandy (3/4 lvl 4)
Graveyard (3hp, holding Thieving Imp)
End of Turn Hand
Dark Pact
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
I don’t think I can work tech 3 with the 2 extra gold stolen. So we’ll have to operate on the Aboms and Plague Lab. Probably won’t be enough, but all we can do is try
zhavier
January 13, 2019, 2:22am
291
Sorry, no sparkshot for that vaguely demon shaped powerless hero.
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In that case Jandra will kill the scav with overpower, and Vandy will midband before killing Lookout. Elite lives
zhavier
January 13, 2019, 3:46am
293
"P1T7
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
STARTING HAND
WORKERS
NextHand
Free Speech
Tech 1 card(s)#2 - ($4)
Float ($0)
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader : Overeager Cadet 2/2+A
Elite :
Scavenger : Scribe 1/3
Technician : Overeager Cadet 2/2
Lookout :
In Play:
Flagstone Garrison
Flagstone Garrison
Quince 1/3
Drill Sergeant 3/3
Building Inspector 1/1
Tax Collector 4/3, +2 runes
Buildings:
Economy Info: Cards:
Gold:
For posterity sake, I gotta play this out, but I feel like it’s probably over.
P2 Black w/ 1g Deteriorate vs P1 Blue
Starting Hand
Dark Pact
Get Gold (10+1scav)
No techs for now
All Teched Cards
Plague Lab, Abomination
Plague Lab, your units weaken (8)
Garth (6)
Hooded Executioner + boost, kills scribe, you get 1g (1)
Jandra kills sql and overpowers to techn, you get a card Vandy kills DS Maxband Vandy (0)
Workers
Pestering Haunt, Skeleton Javelineer, Summon Skeletons, Poisonblade Rogue
Discard 3 Draw 5
Tech 2 cards before my next turn
Tech1 HP: 2
Tech2 HP: 5 DISEASE
Jandra the Negator (3/2)
Gorgon (2/4)
Vandy (4/4 lvl 5)
Graveyard (3hp, holding Thieving Imp and Plague Spitter)
Plague Lab (4hp)
End of Turn Hand
Sickness
End of Turn Discard
My Thoughts
Perhaps can Abom + Plague Lab for big damage next turn, but I somehow doubt it. More likely he is able to start DS rune-ing me to death. We’ll see I guess though
zhavier
January 14, 2019, 12:38pm
295
Vandy was at 3/3, killing the lookout dealt her 1 damage.
DS is a 2/2 when I kill him, so no change needed
zhavier
January 14, 2019, 4:32pm
297
P1T8
Tech StartingHand Workers
TECH
STARTING HAND
WORKERS
NextHand
Arrest
Tech 1 card(s)
Float ($0)
Board Info: In Patrol:
Squad Leader : Overeager Cadet 4/4+A, +2 Runes
Elite : Scribe 3/4, +1 Rune
Scavenger : Traffic Director 1/1
Technician : Drill Sergeant 4/4, +1 Rune
Lookout : Overeager Cadet 3/3, +1 Rune
In Play:
Flagstone Garrison
Flagstone Garrison
Quince 1/1, lvl 3
Drill Sergeant 3/3
Buildings:
Economy Info: Cards:
Gold:
Vandy does not shade any mortals in the coil of demonic doom when she is silenced by the oppression of a dictator such as Quince
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Your math is sound here Zhav, I can’t get what I need to get to Quince even with the other Plague Lab + Abom in hand. GG WP!
I would certainly say 1g deteriorate helps this matchup, but it still doesn’t feel very significant. I had pretty bad draws T1 (no haunt or Jav), T3 (no sickness when it was a perfect move) and T5 (whiffed my Gorgon), while you got exactly what you needed on T5 (Garrison in hand + didn’t bottom deck cadets). That feels in line with the 8-2 / 9-1 the matchup was at already.
Based on how this series went as a whole, I would advocate for forum-errating Deteriorate to 1g as a fairly low-impact way to real Black in, and for further testing on Black vs Blue.
Would you want to try a 10-game series of black vs blue with Deteriorate 1g + one of the other proposed Buffs to Blue / nerfs to Black thrown in, to see if we can get Blue a P2 win?
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zhavier
January 14, 2019, 5:21pm
301
Yes, we Can throw in another change, and see how it plays. Which one do you think? I’d like to consider lowest impact changes first, but make sure they are actually relevant to the matchup.
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Hobusu
January 14, 2019, 6:03pm
302
I’m assuming it wasn’t ever relevant that Deteriorate and Dark Pact were no longer the same cost when playing Newsman?
zhavier
January 14, 2019, 6:05pm
303
It made it far less likely I’d choose 0 cost. But dark pact was never really the issue. The issue is generally the fact that dark pact let’s you play so many other things, and for that reason blocking those other things is more relevant.
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Hobusu
January 14, 2019, 6:17pm
304
That makes sense. I still think making Dark Pact cost 1 as well would be worth testing, but there are probably other things that would be even more valuable to test.
Looking forward to seeing where things go from here!
P1 Black would be sad indeed to have dark pact cost 1g and then have it and deteriorate blocked by newsman
I’ll need to brush up on the forum’s proposed idea changes, but I would love for the change we choose to test to give blue more than 1 very narrow win condition against Black (chain FS + Peace). That makes me feel like something that gives Truth or Law lines more viability would be nice.
Spectators, let us know if you have thoughts on what the best extra wrinkle to add would be!
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Squad Leader: Overeager Cadet 2/2
Elite: Reputable Newsman 1/3, Naming 8
Scavenger: Overeager Cadet 2/2
Technician: Mirror 0/1
Lookout:
4
4
Patrol as below
Base HP: 20
Squad Leader: Vandy (2/3+1armor lvl 1)
Elite:
Scavenger:
Technician:
Lookout: