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#41

I’m sorry, I might need to stop doing turns in the morning before work.
Somehow my 2nd and 3rd discard didn’t survive my reshuffle
(my guess is when I added the 2cards from the board I might have pasted
over rather than pasted after)

For now I’ve set up a physical board so hopefully that will help.

Re-drew cards after reshuffle

P2T6


Tech StartingHand DrawDeck Workers

TECH
Squirl
Allies


STARTING HAND
Stampeed
Playful Panda
Allies
Feral Strike
Moss

Stampeed
Playful Panda
Allies
Tiger Cub
Gemscout

DRAW DECK (top of turn, unrodered)
Feral Strike
Moss
Circle of Life
W. Tiger
Young Treant

Discard (top of turn)
Allies(II)
Squirrel


DRAW DECK (bottom of turn, unordered)


WORKERS
Verdent Tree
Merfolk (1/1; tap: gain a gold; resist.1)
Forest Favor
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler (0/1+a)
Playful Panda


NextHand

Feral Strike
Moss
Circle of Life
W.Tiger
young Treant


Discard

Squirl
Allies(II)
Stampeed
Allies
Gemscout
Tiger Cub


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($10)
Galina pays out (3.gu::1.g) - ($11)

Worker (free)

Rhino goes to her local community center to learn bridge b/c she
can’t do an honest days work in this toxic political environment

Summon Cali - ($9)
She knows some ppl who can work even during a shutdown
Cali casts boosted Allies - ($0)
summon 4x Frog (1/1), 1x Beast (4/4)

Patrol Ironbark (SL)
Patrol frog.a (elite)
Patrol frog.b (scav)
Patrol frog.c (tech)
Patrol beast (lookout)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, Draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Ironbark (1/2+aaa)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: frog.a (1+1/1)
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: frog.b (1/1)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: frog.c (1/1)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]: beast (4/4) (resist.1)
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • (upgrade) Rich Earth: my workers are free
  • Big Rhino (7/8) - Disabled
  • Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)
  • Cali (2/3; lvl.1)
  • frog.d (1/1)

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (feral)
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: -
  • Disc: 6
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 11
Thoughts

Tentative Tech (subject to change)
X - Galina + Gemscout
X - W.Tiger + Circle of Life
X - Stampeed + Allies
X - Feral Strike + Moss
X - Allies(II) + Squirrel
~~Bear + Gigadon

Super embaressing that I can’t do the basics of this game in the morning.
At least the two cards I played were from the initial 3 I had / no advantage.

cost tallies

Dream-t.6
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$11 : $22 : $13 : 0.59

Me-t.6
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$11 : $36 : $06 : 0.17


#42

I can’t keep you from getting 15 gold on your next upkeep. But hopefully I can keep you from spending some of it.

P1T7


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Judgment Day


STARTING HAND
Censorship Council
Brave Knight
Spectral Aven
Injunction
Injunction
Justice Juggernaut (Bigby draw)


WORKERS
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Manufactured Truth
Brave Knight


NextHand

Injunction
Free Speech
Lawful Search
Arrest
Tax Collector


Discard

Judgment Day
Injunction
Justice Juggernaut
Spectral Aven
Brave Knight


Tech 1 card(s)
Get Paid - ($10)
Tap Bigby to draw
Skip worker
Censorship Council - ($6)
Built a tower - ($3)
Injunction on your tech 2, Rhino might as well retire - ($0)

Float ($0)
Stash 1, Discard 3, draw 4


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Guardian of the Gates (1/6A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]: Reputable Newsman (1/3), blocking $2
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Building Inspector (1/1)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Scribe (1/1)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]: Mirror (0/1)
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Bigby lvl 5 (3/4)
  • Quince lvl 1 (1/3)
  • Censorship Council (-/5)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Law)
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 0
  • Disc: 5
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 10
Thoughts

If I can just draw Free Speech right now with Bigby’s maxband, I can completely shut down ascendingPrime’s next turn. I’ve already got both Censorship Council and Injunction in hand (and Newsman on board), so really the only two things that scare me right now are Cala’s topband and another boosted Allies.
Since the odds are against me, I’ll go ahead and tech a Judgment Day, for use in case of a frog flood.

Damn, I was kind of hoping to have Justice Juggernaut in my next hand. I can’t pass up Injunction - not only will it let Rhino attack, it’ll also allow ascendingPrime to get a second hero. So that’s 3 gold locked in.
I could use the rest to play Juggernaut, but I don’t think it’s the right time. I’m on the verge of being overrun, and in immediate danger of a Cala stealth kill on Bigby, which would put an end to my lockdown of his tech 2. A tower is my only option of keeping him safe - another 3 gold locked in.
For the last 4, I think Censorship Council is the responsible choice, over Brave Knight and worker. With ascendingPrime having 15(!) gold to play with next turn, I have got to limit his options. Plus, it’s something that will survive a likely-to-happen Judgment Day.
Let’s do some math: ascendingPrime has 15 attack on board, 17 if he maxbands Cala. My guys have 20 life total. I could make sure Bigby survives if I patrol Quince, but that invites an easy trade and prevents Free Speech. If he does decide to kill Bigby, it’ll cost him. And I could bring him back on T9(!) for a sudden Judgment Day.


#43

Fun fact, can’t have more than 20.g Next turn will be the first I
ever hit that cap.

P2T7


Tech StartingHand DrawDeck Workers

TECH


STARTING HAND
Feral Strike
Moss
Circle of Life
W.Tiger
young Treant
Allies(II) (treant draw)


DRAW DECK (bottom of turn, unordered)
Allies
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)


WORKERS
Verdent Tree
Merfolk (1/1; tap: gain a gold; resist.1)
Forest Favor
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler (0/1+a)
Playful Panda
W.Tiger


NextHand

Tiger Cub
Squirl
Gemscout
Stampeed
Ironbark (1/2+aaa)


Discard

Feral Strike
Moss
Circle of Life
Allies(II) (treant draw)


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($11)
Galina pays out (8.gu::4.g) - ($15)

Worker (free)

With all the good will she developed at the community center Rhino
was able to start a small baked goods business out of her home

Buy 4.lvl for Cali (max) - ($11)

Ironbark atk Guardian
crack armor + 2dam to guardian; 1dam+1tower, Ironbark dies

Beast atk Guardian
4dam, guardian dies; 1dam+1tower, beast disabled

Galina atk Newsman
2dam to newsman; 1dam+1tower, galina dies

frog.a atk Newsman
1dam to newsman, dies; 1dam+1tower to frog, dies

frog.b atk building inspector
1dam to BI, dies, 1g to you; 1dam+1tower to frog, dies

frog.c atk scribe
1dam to scribe, dies, 1card to you; 1dam+1tower to frog, dies

frog.d atk mirror
1dam to mirror, dies; 1tower to frog, dies

Cali stands up for Rhino rights and punches Bigby in the nose
4dam to bigby, dies; 3dam+1tower to cali

Summon Young Treant - ($9)
Reshuffle, Draw 1

Patrol Young Treant (tech)

Float ($9)
Discard 4, Draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Young Treant (0/2; can’t atk)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • (upgrade) Rich Earth: my workers are free
  • Big Rhino (7/8) - Disabled
  • beast (4/2) - Disabled
  • Cali (4/1; lvl.5)

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (feral)
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 2
  • Disc: 4
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 9
  • Workers: 11
Thoughts

Tentative Tech (subject to change)
X - Galina + Gemscout
X - W.Tiger + Circle of Life
X - Stampeed + Allies
X - Feral Strike + Moss
X - Allies(II) + Squirrel
~~Bear + Gigadon

So the real painful part of that was not being able to get a second hero.
Next turn there shouldn’t be any way for DreamFire to keep me from building T3.
After that I have plenty of gold sinks (Moss, 2 Allies, Feral Strike),
so I should be able to overwhelm.

cost tallies

Dream-t.6
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$11 : $22 : $13 : 0.59

Me-t.6
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$11 : $36 : $06 : 0.17


#44

I’m bracing myself for the long-awaited Rhino charge… It’s nice of the bog beast to be babysitting the baking business for a while.

P1T8


Tech StartingHand Workers

TECH
Lawbringer Gryphon
Lawbringer Gryphon


STARTING HAND
Injunction
Lawful Search
Tax Collector
Free Speech
Arrest
Building Inspector (technician draw)


WORKERS
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Manufactured Truth
Brave Knight
Building Inspector


NextHand

Injunction
Reputable Newsman
Justice Juggernaut
Judgment Day
Brave Knight


Discard

Scribe
Free Speech
Lawful Search
Arrest
Injunction
Lawbringer Gryphon
Lawbringer Gryphon


Tech 2 card(s)
Get Paid - ($10)
Scav gold, technician draw - ($11)
Worker - ($10)
Tech 3 - ($5)
Tax Collector, steals a measly 1 gold. I feel like we need a differential system - ($4)
Make a Mirror - ($2)
Free Speech - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: Mirror (0/1)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Tax Collector (2/3)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Quince lvl 1 (1/3)
  • Censorship Council (-/5)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Law)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 2
  • Disc: 7
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 11
Thoughts

ascendingPrime emptied his board to get at Bigby, which I think I’m ok with. Specifically, I think I can keep him contained and beat him to tech 3. Censorship Council stops him from flooding the board with cards, and Free Speech prevents bodies without cards (Cala’s maxband, Arg’s summons).
I expect ascendingPrime to use his turn to build his own tech 3, drop a big tech 2 unit, and maybe summon Midori so that he could maxband him the turn afterwards. I’ll try to keep stalling with Guardian / Injunction / maxband Oni. Would rather not draw Judgment Day just yet…


#45

So I have still never had 20.g in this game kicks dirt,
nuts -I thought I had it. At least Rhino is doing well.

EDIT - ty @Legion, for some reason I got it in my head that both beast and legion would un-disable next turn. But reviewing you are technically correct, the best kind of correct. Added Rhino atk on Scav-Mirror

P2T8


Tech StartingHand DrawDeck Workers

TECH


STARTING HAND
Tiger Cub
Squirl
Gemscout
Stampeed
Ironbark (1/2+aaa)


DRAW DECK (bottom of turn, unordered)
Feral Strike
Allies(II)
Gemscout
Stampeed


WORKERS
Verdent Tree
Merfolk (1/1; tap: gain a gold; resist.1)
Forest Favor
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler (0/1+a)
Playful Panda
W.Tiger
Tiger Cub


NextHand

Allies
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)
Moss
Circle of Life
Squirl


Discard

Tech 0 card(s)
Float - ($9)
Happily pay taxes to live in a free society, #rich - ($8)
Get Paid - ($19)

Worker (free)

Rhino hires Beast as a personal assistant and plans an aggresive marketing campaign for her expanding baked goods business
Ready Rhino

Rhino zealously interviews a mirror off the street about his favorite baked goods, there are some complications
Rhino atk mirror
mirror takes 7dam, dies, 1g to you; Rhino takes 1tower

Beast supervises the construction of the first RBG store, opening soon!
Build T3 - ($14)

Rhino brings in an outside consultant
Summon Midori - ($12)

which is expensive
Buy 7 lvl for midori (max-band) - ($5)

who turns around and hires some local talent
Summon Ironbark - ($2)

and puts them to work walking the streets to get the word out
Patrol Young Treant (SL)
Patrol Ironbark (lookout)

Float ($2)
Discard 3, Draw 2, Reshuffle, Draw 3


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Young Treant (0/2+a; can’t atk)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]: Ironbark (1/2+aa) resist.1
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • (upgrade) Rich Earth: my workers are free
  • Big Rhino (7/7)
  • beast (4/2) - Disabled
  • Cali (4/1; lvl.5)
  • Midori (4/5; lvl.8)

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (feral)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: -
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 2
  • Workers: 12
Thoughts

Tentative Tech (subject to change)
X - Galina + Gemscout
X - W.Tiger + Circle of Life
X - Stampeed + Allies
X - Feral Strike + Moss
X - Allies(II) + Squirrel
~~Bear + Gigadon

Wanted feral Strike more, but Moss is pretty good. If I’m limited to
one card though, a boosted allies + max arg is better. Set up for
Stampeed next turn.

cost tallies

Dream-t.8
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$17 : $33 : $21 : 0.64

Me-t.8
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$16 : $54 : $20 : 0.37


#46

rhino is not disabled this turn, mate


#47

P1T9


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Reputable Newsman
Injunction
Judgment Day
Brave Knight
Justice Juggernaut


WORKERS
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Manufactured Truth
Brave Knight
Building Inspector


NextHand

Lawbringer Gryphon
Guardian of the Gates
Brave Knight
Justice Juggernaut
Spectral Aven


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($11)
Scav gold - ($12)
Skip worker
Maxband Bigby - ($6)
Judgment Day, all businesses crash and burn, only the self-employed heroes stay standing - ($2)
Oni - ($0)
Quince trades with Cala, Oni to lvl 3

Float ($0)
Discard 5, draw 2, reshuffle, draw 3


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Bigby lvl 5 (3/4A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Oni lvl 3 (2/3)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Censorship Council (-/5)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Law)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 9
  • Disc: 0
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 11
Thoughts

Offensive option: maxband Bigby + Judgment Day ($10), bring Oni in ($2), and trade Quince for Cala. I’m left with 2 heroes against maxband Midori. Next turn ascendingPrime snipes something of mine from the skies, and either plays Moss Ancient (probably finishing the game) or maxband Arg and a big tech 2 unit.
Defensive option: maxband Quince ($4), Mirror ($2) copies Brave Knight ($3). Knights and Tax Collector patrol against Rhino, beast, Ironbark. Quince might survive, since unbuffed Midori or Cala can’t kill him. But even if I get lucky and draw Lawbringer, I won’t have an existing Mirror to copy it with. And come to think of it, he could easily hit patrol with Midori and kill Quince with Rhino or buffed beast. If only I had Guardian instead of Knight to patrol… or Aven to protect backline Bigby with a stashed Judgment Day…
As it is, I think Option A is slightly safer. A Moss Ancient will trounce me either way, but if he whiffs on it I might get to play Lawbringer first. It doesn’t have an immediate impact without Quince on board, but I don’t think ascendingPrime has teched a straightforward answer for it.


#48

Well that is certainly unfortunate. I guess to quote somebody famous,
“Every being, which during its natural lifetime produces several eggs or seeds, must suffer destruction during some period of its life, and during some season or occasional year, otherwise, on principal of geometrical increase, its numbers would quickly become so inordinately great that no country could support the product.”

P2T9


Tech StartingHand DrawDeck Workers

TECH


STARTING HAND
Allies
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)
Moss
Circle of Life
Squirl


DRAW DECK (bottom of turn, unordered)
Young Treant (0/2+a; can’t atk)
Ironbark (1/2+aa) resist.1
Big Rhino (7/8) - Disabled
Allies
Squirel


WORKERS
Verdent Tree
Merfolk (1/1; tap: gain a gold; resist.1)
Forest Favor
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler (0/1+a)
Playful Panda
W.Tiger
Tiger Cub
Circle of Life


NextHand

Feral Strike
Allies(II)
Gemscout
Stampeed
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)


Discard

Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + Float - ($14)

Worker (free)

Summon Moss Ancient - ($7)
arrives: summon 3x squirel (1/1; haste; invisible)

Summon Arg - ($5)
arrives: summon wisp (1/2) b/c of midori midband

buy 4-lvl for arg (max) - ($1)
max: summon elemental (3/3; anti-air)

Midori flys over your patrolers and atk your tower
4dam to tower, destroyed, 2dam to your main : Midori takes 1tower dam

(invisible; haste) squirels sneak past your patrol and atk your main
3dam to your main

Patrol Moss Ancient (SL)
Patrol wisp (scav)
Patrol elemental (tech)

Float ($1)
Discard 3, Draw 4, Reshuffle, Draw 1


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Moss Ancient (8/9+a; untargetable; arv or atk, summon 3x squirels)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]: wisp (1/2)
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: elemental (3/3; anti-air)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • (upgrade) Rich Earth: my workers are free
  • Midori (4/4; lvl.8)
  • Arg (1/5; lvl.5)
  • squirel.a (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.b (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.c (1/1; invisible; haste)

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (feral)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 5
  • Disc: -
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 1
  • Workers: 13
Thoughts

Tentative Tech (subject to change)
X - Galina + Gemscout
X - W.Tiger + Circle of Life
X - Stampeed + Allies
X - Feral Strike + Moss
X - Allies(II) + Squirrel
~~Bear + Gigadon

So that was unexpected. Still with moss out and stamped next turn
I’m looking at 6x4 squirel damage alone. Even if the base takes flight,
I should be able to overflow enough damage up to it + Midori has flying.

cost tallies

Dream-t.9
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$17 : $41 : $41 : 1.00

Me-t.9
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$16 : $67 : $27 : 0.40


#49

Following that turn and that quote, I don’t think I’m fit enough to survive. But let’s play it out.

P1T10


StartingHand Workers

STARTING HAND
Spectral Aven
Guardian of the Gates
Lawbringer Gryphon
Brave Knight
Justice Juggernaut


WORKERS
Bluecoat Musketeer
Jail
Porkhand Magistrate
Traffic Director
Manufactured Truth
Brave Knight
Building Inspector
Justice Juggernaut


NextHand

Injunction
Free Speech
Lawbringer Gryphon
Lawful Search
Judgment Day


Discard

Spectral Aven
Brave Knight
Guardian of the Gates


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid - ($11)
Worker - ($10)
Lawbringer Gryphon, my base takes off the ground and away from all these damn squirrels - ($0)

Float ($0)
Discard 3, draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]: Oni lvl 3 (2/3A)
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]: Bigby lvl 5 (3/4)
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • Lawbringer Gryphon (7/6)
  • Censorship Council (-/5)
    [B]Buildings:[/B]
  • :heart: Base HP: 15
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (Law)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: 4
  • Disc: 3
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 0
  • Workers: 12
Thoughts

Oof. This is probably game, but I’ll play it out.
Midori + elemental can easily kill Lawbringer even without buffs, but if it hides in the backline at least ascendingPrime will have to batter his way through the patrol first. Let’s see, Moss Ancient kills one hero, then Arg+Wisp+squirrels kill the other. And he just gets new squirrels. I wish I had 1 extra gold to patrol Aven in front of Lawbringer… As it is, I might as well worker it. His AA will be gone after this turn anyway.


#50

I’m glad you liked the quote. I remembered it a bit differently so it was
actually a bit harder to track down than it should have been.

I have stamped in hand, so that is GG. I’m 1 dam short of a table-wipe,
so the way I imagine this is that the movie ends with this massive stamped.
Then as an after-credit scene, a lone squirel hops into a rickety cencorship
council, climbs onto a desk where he finds a cigar, and a change takes place
where the squirel stands up on its hind legs, starts chomping on the cigar,
and seems to become a petty tyrant.

P2T10


Tech StartingHand DrawDeck Workers

TECH


STARTING HAND
Feral Strike
Allies(II)
.Gemscout
.Stampeed
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)


DRAW DECK (bottom of turn, unordered)


WORKERS
Verdent Tree
Merfolk (1/1; tap: gain a gold; resist.1)
Forest Favor
Rampant Growth
Spore Shambler (0/1+a)
Playful Panda
W.Tiger
Tiger Cub
Circle of Life
Gemscout


NextHand

Young Treant (0/2+a; can’t atk)
Ironbark (1/2+aa) resist.1
Big Rhino (7/8) - Disabled
Allies
Squirel


Discard

Feral Strike
Allies(II)
Stampeed
Galina (2/2; upkeep: 1g per 2-green units)


Tech 0 card(s)
Get Paid + Float - ($14)

Worker (free)

Arg casts Stamped - ($8)
my units gain +3/+aaa, overrun dam to your main

Summon Cali - ($6)

wisp atk Oni
crack armor + 3 dam to Oni, dies, 2-lvl to Cali (mid-band); wisp loses 2 armor

squirel.a atk Bigby
4dam to Bigby, dies, you draw, 2-lvl to cali (max-band); squirel loses 3 armor

elemental atk gryphon
6dam to gryphon, dies, your base back to earth; elemental taks 4dam after armor, dies

Moss atk your main
11dam to your main
atk: summon squirel d-f

Arg and Midori team up to atk T3
5dam, destroyed, 2dam to main

squirel.b & squirel.c team up to atk T2
8dam, destroyed, 2dam to main, lethal

squirel.d & squirel.e team up to atk T1
8dam, destroyed

squirel.f runs into cencorship council
4dam, left standing with 1HP

Float ($6)
Discard 3, Draw 5


[B]Board Info:[/B]
[B]In Patrol:[/B]

  • :psblueshield: [I]Squad Leader[/I]:
  • :psfist: [I]Elite[/I]:
  • :ps_: [I]Scavenger[/I]:
  • :pschip: [I]Technician[/I]:
  • :target: [I]Lookout[/I]:
    [B]In Play:[/B]
  • (upgrade) Rich Earth: my workers are free
  • Midori (4/4; lvl.8)
  • Arg (1/5; lvl.5)
  • Calie (4/5; lvl.5)
  • Moss Ancient (8/9; untargetable; arv or atk, summon 3x squirels)
  • squirel.a (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.b (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.c (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.d (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.e (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • squirel.f (1/1; invisible; haste)
  • wisp (0/1)

[B]Buildings:[/B]

  • :heart: Base HP: 20
  • :heart: Tech I HP: 5
  • :heart: Tech II HP: 5 (feral)
  • :heart: Tech III HP: 5
  • :heart: Tower HP: 4

[B]Economy Info:[/B]
[B]Cards:[/B]

  • Hand: 5
  • Deck: -
  • Disc: 4
    [B]Gold:[/B]
  • Gold: 6
  • Workers: 14
Thoughts

Tentative Tech (subject to change)
X - Galina + Gemscout
X - W.Tiger + Circle of Life
X - Stampeed + Allies
X - Feral Strike + Moss
X - Allies(II) + Squirrel
~~Bear + Gigadon

cost tallies

Dream-t.10
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$18 : $51 : $41 : 0.80

Me-t.10
eco : arm : kil : kil/arm
$16 : $73 : $47 : 0.64


#51

Great game, and awesome finish!
You played around my Injunction-spam masterfully, and I didn’t have the means to transition from control to pressure. I find Law tech 2 to be somewhat overpriced, in general, but maybe I just haven’t found the right formula to make it work. And maybe if I’d just built tech 3 earlier (as early as T6, in hindsight), things would’ve gone differently…
I’ve looked at your thoughts, could you explain the cost tallies?


#52

EDIT - I know it can sometimes be tricky to find people at your skill level and I feel like we are on an even footing. Let me know if you want another game w/ different decks + new thread.

EDIT 2 - missed the Q about cost tallies
So this is something I started recently to try and get insight into how efficient my play is.

Backstory: I played a game against Hobusu, where he talked about how he was very disciplined about how much he invested in a particular hero as a way of making sure he was being efficient in the trade. When I heard it, it made me think of the metrics in starcraft where you can see resources mined, resources lost, army value, army size, etc. I’m still working out the details but basically the way it works now is…

Eco is the sum of (workers + techs + non-tower add-ons, building-inspector tax)

Army is the sum of (unit summon cost + hero summon cost + hero bought levels + tower build cost + cost of runes / attachments / persistent buffs)

Kill is the value of the opponents army is taken off the board, so basically like army, but includes free-lvls heros gained + destroyed add-ons (techs don’t count b/c they auto-rebuild) + dam to base. Sacrificed units count towards opponents kill score.

Things that aren’t considered are

  • tech / scav bonuses
  • money spent on card manipulation spells/powers
  • money spent on temporary buff/debuff spells
  • money spent on damage / kill spells
  • damage that doesn’t kill something
  • damage to techs (things which rebuild for free)
    …the idea behind not counting these things is that they do not matter by themselves in the long-term; instead there value is captured either in making you take more efficient trades, killing units, or stunting your opponents build-up (all of which are already measured).

Ya I really enjoyed that. I confess I consider blue a bit of an “unsolved problem” for the reasons you identified. You win the game by burning down your opponents base, but blue is all about control (which doesn’t do direct base damage), and it isn’t really clear to me how you are supposed to mix in damage into the control strat (or maybe transition into a damage focus).

The peace plan plays a lot like green (just build up a big enough army to walk over any blockers)

And in the first game you made a good case for the illusion plan, where at T3 with max-quince you can get an explosion of hasted, unstoppable, griffons + mirror griffons.

But for Law…
I think juggernaut might be required. Also, I think censorship council is a bit more double edged than it looks on the surface. While not having the choice isn’t great, only playing 1 card a turn + worker keeps me cycling my deck as fast as possible and keeps me thinning my weak cards, so this ends up being a “seat-belt” that forces me to follow the best practice to make my deck stronger over time.


#53

Yeah, I’d like to have another matchup, but I’ve got a couple of other games ongoing so I want to dial back a bit.

The tallying system is coolץ I might try it for a game or two, even though my natural tendency is to judge the game-state by tempo / board position / control, rather than pure gold value.